RE: What is your problem with Atheism?
June 2, 2018 at 7:23 am
(This post was last modified: June 2, 2018 at 7:51 am by Little Rik.)
(June 1, 2018 at 11:01 am)Khemikal Wrote:(June 1, 2018 at 5:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: YES YOU DO.1. Go beat your head against a rock, see whether or not you find that substantial.
Here below just a tiny list of your claims.
1) The consciousness is a product of the brain.
2) When the body dies also the consciousness die.
3) Nobody created the universe.
4) Nobody run the universe because entropy do the job.
5) NDEs are just hallucinations.
2. You might be able to simultaneously test this one while substantiating 1.
3. You;re right..you;re right, my cousin Cletus did it. Mystery solved.
4. Cletus, again.
5. Yet another postulate you could test in the course of figuring out number 1.
Now that we've handled that...you realize that none of those things have anything to do with atheism, right? That;s been a pattern in this thread. Peoples problems with atheism don;t seem to have anything to do with atheism. More accurately, they;re the claimants problems.
You don't get it Khem, do you?

The title of the thread is..................What is your problem with Atheism? ................
But the OP start in this way.................We don't make unsubstantiated claims..............follow by......WE..........WE........we and more WE so I am entitle to deal with what atheists say although the title of the thread and the further claim that deal with what atheists think is contradictory.
If the thread would have said..........What is your problem with Atheists instead of.......What is your problem with Atheism?.......... that would have made more sense because all the questions in the Op related to what atheists suppose to be about not with what atheism is all about so don't blame me if the title of the OP is incorrect.
Blame the one who start the thread and the Op not me.
By the way I am spot on with my reply to the Op.

(June 1, 2018 at 7:15 pm)MysticKnight Wrote:(June 1, 2018 at 5:18 am)Little Rik Wrote: There is not such a thing as an everlasting punishment.
The evil and corrupted priests created this terrible dogma in order to keep people under their mental control.
No wonder that atheists treat religion like garbage.
Not only that but because of all dogmas that the religions are based upon atheists treat all theists in the same way.
The theists that do not believe in hell and all other religious dogmas.
I believe justice and God hand go hand, true belief in God, is belief in justice, he is justice.
To prove this is quite simple. Everything human experience is for their benefit.
Evil is really misguided use of emotions and confusion with regard to the truth and being unbalanced and not putting things in their proper place.
For example, Anger against oppressors killing and not giving people their rights, is a good thing. However, anger for petty things for our own sake is not good.
Forbearance and compassion have their proper place.
So does wrath and vengeance.
As no praise is found in creation but it exists in perfect ultimate form and harmony in God, then it follows vengeance, although mercy and compassion must precede it, and favored over it, also has it's place.
And it has it's place to the extent God is most compassionate in the place of mercy and pardon and the most severest in punishment in the place of wrath and vengeance.
It's obvious vengeance can be a good thing it's proper use. Justice is sought by the friends of God from God and God wants people to love justice.
Of course, justice is always balanced off with that God tries to save us from it and act according to his compassion and mercy instead. However, if we refuse and die on that refusal, it make sense just like his reward is endless for the good people so then is his punishment for the evil people.
So you know for sure that evil people go to hell, do you?
How do you know that?
Sorry MK but that doesn't make any sense at all.

If the hell would exist then is obvious that God made some mistakes in his creations.
Why God would make mistakes considering that he is perfect?
Perfections means........NO MISTAKES therefore God can not create a dumping ground for his alleged mistakes.
It is just 100% contradictory that is why the hell is an human invention by sick humans.
Nothing to do with God therefore.
