RE: 8000 Muslims massacred by White, racist European non-Muslims. All Euro vs Euro
June 6, 2018 at 7:44 pm
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2018 at 7:47 pm by WinterHold.)
(June 6, 2018 at 12:27 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Whatever the reason for it the point remains that the Mongols were an existential threat to islam which xtianity never was. Mongol invasions were stopped at the Battle of Ain Julut but it was more an accident of history than any great battle tactics. The Great Khan had died and most of the invaders withdrew leaving only a small covering force to watch the Mamelukes in Egypt. The force was insufficient and the Mamelukes won the battle breaking the myth of invincibility that the Mongols had up to that time. Shortly thereafter there was civil war among the Mongols and they were never able to properly chastise the Mamelukes. In such a way did islam survive.
But they got the message. They turned with fury on the Nestorians and Syrian Churches in their midst. Can't say I blame them. Xtians in the west were perfectly willing to slaughter eastern xtians whenever they got the chance!
Ain Jalut is a point of pride in Islamic history for me, actually I take pride in 3 historic Islamic victories:
1-Ottomans stopping Vlad the Impaler
2-Battle of Ain Jalut
3-Battle of Hattin
I believe they did the right thing in these battles. Muslims are rarely given credit for these events -in my opinion- despite the importance of them. The sons of the Khan didn't last long with the size of their empire getting larger, the influence of the civilizations they destroyed did haunt them -I think the first crack between the Khan's sons began, when one of them got too influenced with Chinese culture-. They lost their identity and rotted with time as all empires.
The Mongols delivered a severe shock to the region but over a small duration, the crusaders -on the other hand- kept raiding Muslims until the British victory in Palestine in the previous century:
Quote:Some British newspapers and magazines, including The Irish News, claimed it as the end of the crusades.[147] A US newspaper also made reference to the Crusades, specifically the New York Herald (see picture), referring to the last time Jerusalem was under non-Muslim rule in 1244 AD when a Khwarezmian army under Al-Salih Ayyub, defeated the Franks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Jerusalem
That if we counted this opinion to be true.. I believe the crusades did more damage to Muslims.