RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 25, 2018 at 10:53 am
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2018 at 11:07 am by RoadRunner79.)
(June 25, 2018 at 10:42 am)Losty Wrote:(June 25, 2018 at 9:04 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I like to think that I expose myself to varying points of view (I'm here aren't I).
However I don't see people saying that those outside of the U.S. don't deserve those rights described in the constitution as inalienable and given by creator. The very phrasing, is meant to describe something which is not given by, but only recognized by the governing body.
We can talk about immigration policy, and if they should be changed. I don't think that unrestricted immigration is a good idea, and that we should have laws concerning immigration (most countries I believe do). And really what is being talked about is those who circumvent proper immigration procedures. I would say that for the majority of people, it is dishonest to try to ascribe to them, that having immigration restrictions as equal to them saying that others don't deserve basic human rights. If you are arguing that these countries are such shit holes, then do you think that those left in those countries don't deserve these rights as well? Should we start over throwing governments in these places?
I made no such argument. I only responded to your post. I didn’t make any argument about immigration or about the state of the countries people come here from.
I hear people all the time saying that people should be shot on the spot for crossing the border illegally. I feel like if you’ve never heard someone argue that illegal immigrants shouldn’t be afforded basic human rights you must be walking around with your fingers in your ears.
Well context is important to a conversation. Sometimes I make the mistake of assuming that what someone is saying has to do with what is being talked about.
edit: For the record, I don't agree with shooting people who are caught crossing the border, and I don't think that is on the table for any official policy.
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