Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: January 6, 2025, 4:09 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
#19
RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
(June 25, 2018 at 10:42 am)Losty Wrote:
(June 25, 2018 at 9:04 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I like to think that I expose myself to varying points of view (I'm here aren't I).

However I don't see people saying that those outside of the U.S.  don't deserve those rights described in the constitution as inalienable and given by creator.   The very phrasing, is meant to describe something which is not given by, but only recognized by the governing body.  

We can talk about immigration policy, and if they should be changed.  I don't think that unrestricted immigration is a good idea, and that we should have laws concerning immigration (most countries I believe do).  And really what is being talked about is those who circumvent proper immigration procedures.   I would say that for the majority of people, it is dishonest to try to ascribe to them, that having immigration restrictions as equal to them saying that others don't deserve basic human rights.  If you are arguing that these countries are such shit holes, then do you think that those left in those countries don't deserve these rights as well? Should we start over throwing governments in these places?

I made no such argument. I only responded to your post. I didn’t make any argument about immigration or about the state of the countries people come here from.

I hear people all the time saying that people should be shot on the spot for crossing the border illegally. I feel like if you’ve never heard someone argue that illegal immigrants shouldn’t be afforded basic human rights you must be walking around with your fingers in your ears.

Well context is important to a conversation.  Sometimes I make the mistake of assuming that what someone is saying has to do with what is being talked about.

edit:  For the record, I don't agree with shooting people who are caught crossing the border, and I don't think that is on the table for any official policy.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man.  - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire.  - Martin Luther
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws? - by RoadRunner79 - June 25, 2018 at 10:53 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Americans: Have You Thought About How You Will Cope if Trump Wins? AFTT47 93 4442 November 7, 2024 at 2:35 pm
Last Post: Thumpalumpacus
  A thing about choice and laws in the USA ShinyCrystals 7 1339 October 15, 2023 at 10:14 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Bacha Bazi: how poor Afghani boys were raped. WinterHold 76 8141 December 29, 2022 at 2:25 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  Why Red Flag Laws Won't Work. onlinebiker 203 16225 August 26, 2019 at 4:09 pm
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  Just when I thought that Donald Trump could not get any dumber... Jehanne 16 2839 November 27, 2018 at 12:27 pm
Last Post: YahwehIsTheWay
  You Were Stupid. Will You Still Be Stupid in 2020? Minimalist 39 6332 May 15, 2018 at 7:59 pm
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  The Power of Freedom vs. Hate Speech Laws Mechaghostman2 13 1890 May 1, 2018 at 10:02 pm
Last Post: chimp3
  Right to Work laws in America Joods 25 3333 April 18, 2018 at 4:33 am
Last Post: Angrboda
  Laws Are No Better Than The Fuckheads Who Enforce Them Minimalist 2 751 April 3, 2018 at 12:39 pm
Last Post: Minimalist
  At first I thought this was a joke. Minimalist 3 973 December 14, 2017 at 6:41 am
Last Post: Pat Mustard



Users browsing this thread: 6 Guest(s)