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RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 25, 2018 at 11:02 am
(June 25, 2018 at 10:25 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(June 25, 2018 at 10:02 am)Brian37 Wrote:
Bullshit. Slavery was moral at one point. The part you are not getting is we are NOT being inconsistent in saying it is still wrong. Times change and the goal should be to do the least harm, not go with a majority.
Point of view is what what we are pointing out. Moral to one may not be moral to another, but that does not mean just because you think something is moral means the one being harmed by it thinks it is.
WE are not being hypocrites or inconsistent. Our species ability to be cruel or compassionate has always existed, it is still up to us what we choose.
Just because history has, or just because we can, does not mean we always should.
Morality IS subjective, and I am damned glad there have been those in the past who have challenged social norms so that we ended slavery and segregation and that women could vote, and that LGBT have more rights today.
Your problem, and I see this with every religion worldwide, bar none, is that humans far to often attach their local religions, traditions and social norms as being that source of morality.
I think MOST HUMANS are very capable of empathy and compassion, and that is where more of the world needs to be. Where I disagree is where they think morality is coming from. It is not coming from above, or from a holy person or a holy writing, but has always been in us. <---None of that is saying to value dictators or lawlessness.
Morality comes from the same place these elephants did what they did.
And why this cat did what it did.
Yes, in a view of subjective morality, you are saying morality and therefore rights are based on the subject (or perhaps a group of subjects). Therefore you cannot claim that something is immoral or more or less moral apart from that foundation. You cannot compare and say that something is more or less moral for another person or culture. Objective rights outside of the person or culture do not exist. It doesn't even make sense to say that they don't deserve these rights, under moral subjectivity. And merely having compassion or empathy doesn't work either in regards to morality and rights.
Yep, I need a fictional sky wizard to magically hand me down my goodness right?
