Illegal Immigrants

[Brian37]

This is an extremely ignorant and vile thing to say. The same scapegoating allowed for black lynchings. The same scapegoating allowed for vilification of Chinese migrant railroad workers. The same vilification of the Irish, look up "Hell's Kitchen".  And no, I do not think either of my Hispanic neighbors are going to murder me. 

And on top of all the bigotry in our history listed above, we also wrongly vilified innocent Japanese Americans. We turned away a boat full of Jews during WW2 whom went back only to be murdered in concentration camps.

45 isn't "telling it like it is". He is simply preying on our species worst instincts.

I don't think that he or anyone is saying that illegal immigrants should be killed.  I think you are missing the point.  

But you have a fancy new house, do you think that you should have a say, in who enters into it?   If I just let myself in, and started making myself a sandwich is that OK?    You could come home tomorrow, and find me and 20 other people having a Bible study in your living room.  I think that if we want to change immigration policies (and relax them); that is a different conversation from tolerating illegal immigrants.

A nation is not a personal house like the one you rent or own. It is a political construct.   In China if you are North Korean and try to escape to China and get found out, you get sent back to North Korea, if you are lucky you only get abusive hard labor in a prison camp, many get murdered by the state. So is that it, is that what you mean by "having a say"?


Do NOT hand me any bullshit, that if you were under the duress of famine, war or crime, and especially if you had kids, you would not want to flee it. 

But those HUMAN BEINGS you call "illegal" are being sent back to places where they WILL starve to death or get murdered by criminals. If ICE tried to fuck with my neighbors, WHOM HAVE KIDS as well, I'd be happy to commit non violent civil disobedience in protest.

Yes I will tolerate non violent individuals, with or without papers. I am not an inhumane dick. If we are to deport people the humane thing to do is to only send them to places where they won't have to flee again.