Yep, it doesn't. I just don't believe in it because I have no evidence. And by that though I mean when we define it as something more than mere evitablity which is obvious that we have either way, with our without actual 'free will' as in influencing our own decisions and whether or not this universe is deterministic or INdetermistic - we still have evitability either way, I mean; we still avoid things and situations, etc, whether we have any real 'choice' in the matter or not.
In anything other than simply 'evitability', etc I don't know how 'free will' would exactly work or what it would even BE like. How we would even tell? I just don't believe in anything more than that because I know of no evidence. I assume we just have thoughts influenced by other thoughts etc, and we don't actually choose THEM ulitimately, they just happen. Whether the universe is indeterministic or deterministic I know of no evidence of 'free will' other than if it is defined as simply 'evitability'.
And I expect evidence of course. I don't know how the hell that would work...how can we ULTIMATELY choose our own thoughts, make our own decisions, choose our own decisions or 'make' our own thoughts, or whatever, etc? I Mean....where is the evidence for that? The thoughts and decisions are influenced by each other and by environment and genetics - I don't know of any evidence that it's any more than that. As far as I know if they're not determined then they're simply more random; bouncing about a bit more - not that we CHOOSE them - because the 'choices' we MAKE themselves I have no reason to believe are chosen! They just happen and if we think choosing equates to having any choice in the matter then that's not evidence. Just because we think we can make our OWN choices is not evidence.
We ARE making choices whether we like it or not is my view. And they just happen, we make 'choices' as WE view them - but they just happen.
We do one thing as opposed to do something else and then think "I chose that" - did you? Maybe it wasn't determined, but your actual choosing that was just physics bouncing about as far as I'm concerned and YES it may have been able to be another way...but can YOU influence that? Can you choose WHICH? I know of no evidence that you can.
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In anything other than simply 'evitability', etc I don't know how 'free will' would exactly work or what it would even BE like. How we would even tell? I just don't believe in anything more than that because I know of no evidence. I assume we just have thoughts influenced by other thoughts etc, and we don't actually choose THEM ulitimately, they just happen. Whether the universe is indeterministic or deterministic I know of no evidence of 'free will' other than if it is defined as simply 'evitability'.
And I expect evidence of course. I don't know how the hell that would work...how can we ULTIMATELY choose our own thoughts, make our own decisions, choose our own decisions or 'make' our own thoughts, or whatever, etc? I Mean....where is the evidence for that? The thoughts and decisions are influenced by each other and by environment and genetics - I don't know of any evidence that it's any more than that. As far as I know if they're not determined then they're simply more random; bouncing about a bit more - not that we CHOOSE them - because the 'choices' we MAKE themselves I have no reason to believe are chosen! They just happen and if we think choosing equates to having any choice in the matter then that's not evidence. Just because we think we can make our OWN choices is not evidence.
We ARE making choices whether we like it or not is my view. And they just happen, we make 'choices' as WE view them - but they just happen.
We do one thing as opposed to do something else and then think "I chose that" - did you? Maybe it wasn't determined, but your actual choosing that was just physics bouncing about as far as I'm concerned and YES it may have been able to be another way...but can YOU influence that? Can you choose WHICH? I know of no evidence that you can.
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