RE: Why believe the bible?
June 28, 2018 at 3:13 pm
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2018 at 3:17 pm by possibletarian.)
(June 28, 2018 at 2:33 pm)SteveII Wrote:(June 28, 2018 at 12:22 pm)possibletarian Wrote: I don't think anyone is claiming that you are claiming they are natural, rather that the 'supernatural' claims cannot be substantiated by any experience people can be proven to have, if one merely has to make the claim followed by eye witness accounts then why not believe the claims of the Indian guru's who are alive today and have many like miracles said about them.
While you can claim they are supernatural in origin they are definitely able to be empirically observed if true.
We are talking about a specific set of miracles chronicled in the NT. They can be substantiated by people who saw them. These people later wrote things down, told other people and had them write them down. There is no proof. Only whether you believe the evidence and have additional reasons to think the evidence is true. Christian belief does not happen because you read about a miracle and believed it to be true. It is a process I outlined in my very first post in this thread.
Bringing up people who purportedly perform miracles today is a red herring. I have no knowledge of or access to these claims.
Well that's the question posed, why in the face of what we know in naturally possible do you believe in a spiritual world or miracles at all? (and by extension the claims the bible makes)
If you search for Indian guru's you will come across claims that these people carry out miracles along a similar theme, some of them still alive and with eye witness accounts many of whom are still alive. I assume you reject these miracles out of hand (please correct me if i'm wrong). Why not research some of them, and see if eye witness account is adequate for you to believe they can indeed do miracles.
If it's not adequate for you now despite the masses of people saying they see miracles, or whatever other supernatural events you care to describe from all religions and creeds, then why believe them in the bible ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'