Why believe the bible?

[Huggy Bear]

Uh no...

The claim YOU made was that animals have a sense of morality, and you referenced Frans De Waal who expressly stated that he wouldn't call animals moral beings. The fact that you would reject an experts conclusion of his own research (that YOU referenced), when it contradicts your point speaks volumes.

Yes. Because I am also a qualified scientist that has researched the functional role of emotions. That's how science works.

My point still stands though, which you seem unable to grasp. I disagreed with Frans De Waal's claim, not his evidence. This is possible to do in science because the two are specified as such. This is not the case with the Bible or with xtians who do not understand the difference. This is why they end up using circular logic.

De Waals CLAIM is ths ANIMALS AREN'T MORAL BEINGS, Got it? You referenced De Waal's research as supporting YOUR CLAIM that animals can be moral, but De Waal's own words state otherwise.

Therefore the claim that animals are moral beings aren't supported by De Waal's research, HIS OWN acknowledgement, leaving no evidence to support said claim.

Since you claim to be a peer of De Waal, then review his work and publish your own article, that's how science works correct?

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Frans De Waal who expressly stated that he wouldn't call animals moral beings.

LOL then how would he call animals? Immoral?

De Waal's own words from a New York Times article.

https://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/20...thout-god/

At the same time, however, I am reluctant to call a chimpanzee a “moral being.” This is because sentiments do not suffice. We strive for a logically coherent system, and have debates about how the death penalty fits arguments for the sanctity of life, or whether an unchosen sexual orientation can be wrong. These debates are uniquely human. We have no evidence that other animals judge the appropriateness of actions that do not affect themselves.