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Hello.....I have a little problem
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(September 12, 2011 at 7:32 pm)IATIA Wrote: Actually, it has to influence your day to day beliefs and judgments.

No, it doesn't.

Quote:The fact that you do not use god as an influence means that you must be using 'not god' or more specifically, atheism, your own conscience.

Not using something is not the same as using something. Fairies do not influence my decisions. Does that mean that my non-belief in fairies is me using "not fairy" in making my everyday decisions? If you look at worldviews like that, it really muddies the water.

Quote:To me, atheism is not a belief system in a 'not god', but a belief system in myself and my ability to recognize right from wrong and establish my own morals.

Atheism isn't a belief system. You can believe in yourself and believe you can establish your own morals without being an atheist.

Quote:Would I have picked a different restaurant today if I believed in a god? Possibly. Would I have chosen a different toothpaste? Probably not, but without a belief in a god, I cannot say something as innate as toothpaste would not have been influenced were I to believe as such.

That's really stretching it. Just because a belief in something influences other people does not mean a lack of belief in the same thing is influential. Therein lies the problem. People are so influenced by their deities that they presume that lack of belief in such a deity is influential as well. Atheism is one small thing. Besides, if no one believed in god, would you say the same thing? No, because there would be no need for one insignificant thing to have a label if so many people weren't nut bag crazy about religion.

Quote:So, yes. Most everything you do and probably everything else is influenced by your atheism. Your atheism is a part of who you are and has to influence your decisions.

No, it isn't. No, it doesn't. Thank you for telling me what atheism does for me, though. You sure you aren't a bible thumper? Wink
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