RE: Why believe the bible?
July 2, 2018 at 5:14 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2018 at 5:27 pm by Minimalist.)
(July 2, 2018 at 3:29 pm)JairCrawford Wrote:(July 2, 2018 at 3:22 pm)Minimalist Wrote: The nativity stories are totally different because they were invented by different authors at different times for different audiences. That's because the original story lacked any nativity story at all. It will piss xhristards off no end but "jesus evolved."
You're referring to Markan Priority and the synoptic problem. Yes, there are discrepancies and they were written by different authors. That does not, however, require us to make the jump to the conclusion that the whole nativity was fabricated. That is a speculation.
No, it is not speculation at all to state that the original story - so-called "Mark" - lacked any reference at all to the nativity. That is a FACT. If you do not know what a fact is, look it up. Neither is it speculation to state that the two elaborations on "mark" from the so-called matthew and luke narratives were in large part copied from it and that as it had no nativity story they obviously felt compelled to invent one. They differ from each other in virtually every significant detail. This is also a fact.
You have no primary sources for your godboy tales. No Greco-Roman writer* until the late 2d century ever heard of anyone named "jesus" even if they had heard of xtians.... or more likely "Chrestians" as Suetonius and Tacitus wrote.
I'm am really not interested in your beliefs about fairy tales. I want to see facts. And better scholars than you admit they don't have any.
*The fact that 4th century xtians felt compelled to forge "jesus" into Josephus' "Antiquities of the Jews" merely proves that they too were embarrassed by the godboys' lack of impact on history. So embarrassed that they committed fraud.
And dripshit.....stop telling Jews how to be Jews. They are way beyond your childish attempts at understanding the gibberish that their ancient forefathers scribbled out.
http://etzion.org.il/en/shiur-4a-duplica...ion-part-1
Quote:The awareness that the Torah contains many instances of duplication, as well as contradictions between different sources, has always existed. Chazal address these phenomena in many places, and note them using expressions such as, "Two biblical verses contradict one another"; "one verse says… while another verse says…." The commentators broaden the discussion even further, and propose different explanations for the phenomena of repetition and contradiction in Tanakh, both in relation to contradictions between different textual units, and in relation to contradictions that occur within one single unit.
To illustrate the phenomenon, let us list some of the better-known contradictions.
1. The most famous would seem to be the two descriptions of the Creation, as set forth in chapter 1 and chapter 2 of Bereishit. Chapter 1 suggests that first the plants were created (verses 11-12), followed by animals (verses 20-25), and finally man – male and female together (verse 27). In chapter 2, by contrast, man is created first (verse 7), followed by vegetation (verses 8-9), with the text emphasizing that there was no point in creating plants prior to the appearance of man, and animals are created only in order to serve as a "helpmate" to man (verses 18-20). Woman, too, is created at a later stage, from one of Man's ribs (verses 21-23).
You're just making yourself look stupid...although you must be used to that by now.