RE: Why believe the bible?
July 2, 2018 at 6:58 pm
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2018 at 7:02 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(July 2, 2018 at 2:13 am)Mathilda Wrote:(July 1, 2018 at 11:12 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: As usual Huggy you fail to make a case
And as usual Huggy cherry picks what to reply to in order to avoid the main argument
(July 1, 2018 at 10:16 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: So then according to your logic human beings also don't have any moral values because they also sometimes kill their infants.
Much like how Huggy cherry picked Frans De Waal ...
(July 1, 2018 at 1:45 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: As he writes from the article you cite:
Quote:For example, female chimpanzees have been seen to drag reluctant males towards each other to make up after a fight, removing weapons from their hands, and high-ranking males regularly act as impartial arbiters to settle disputes in the community. I take these hints of community concern as yet another sign that the building blocks of morality are older than humanity, and that we do not need God to explain how we got where we are today.
Of course Huggy is trying to ignore all these points which is why I am reminding him here. But if I say anything else on in this post that he could respond to instead he'll use it to ignore Fake Messiah's points again.
I didn't ignore anything, I didn't think it was necessary to explain how "building blocks of morality" do not equate to 'morality'.
Could you even define what a "building block of morality" even is in the first place? Nevertheless De Waal stated that he would not call animals moral beings so obviously he does not believe they posses all the "building blocks of morality"
Morality isn't just the ability to discern right and wrong, it's also about having a system of justice to punish immoral behavior.
Law defines immoral or unacceptable behavior, without law there can be no morality (or at least morality that isn't subjective) because morality isn't left up for one person to decide.
This is what differentiates us from animals.