(July 5, 2018 at 11:02 am)Drich Wrote:(July 3, 2018 at 3:20 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: No offense, Drich, but I find the argument presented here rather stupid. If this indeed is from God, rather than men, your God seems rather dim. I rather suspect it's not from God.
(This is oddly reminiscent of BennyBoy's recent argument that if you have done no wrong, you don't have any need of privacy. It's, at best, grossly naive.)
This is only 1/2 the equation.. the other 1/2 was the catylist for the revolutionary war between the uS and england.
That other 1/2 though doesn't have anything to do with what Jeer had to say about being allowed to hold your government in contempt because the guy you voted for lost. God allows for civil disobedience so long as it directly conflicted with a stated command of His. However this has nothing to do with liking your leaders. You like in the case of trump can hate the man but also accept he has done nothing outside the purview of Power that God allows. In truth he has not halted immigration, he simply chose to enforce the same laws that obama chose to up hold and enforce. Even up holding abortion is not a reason for their to be a 'christian break' from this country. What would deem a break necessary is if the leadership decides to start rewriting the bible via changing constitutional religious liberties." Meaning the constitution is amended to allow the government to argument what a christian or any other religion deems moral or immoral. to demand the worship of God which include certain mandates while excluding others is not the business of the government.
I'm attacking the reasoning, Drich, that obedience towards appointed leaders is justified because they are, "not a terror to good conduct, but to bad." Even if we ignore those cases where the leaders oppose biblically justified precepts, we have plenty of examples of government being a terror to those who are good, as well. So, as an argument for obeying your leaders, it's a bad one, based on a fantasy, not the reality. If this is an argument from your God, then your God is either unaware of how government can be a terror to those who are good (in which case, he's not omniscient), or he's just making a bad argument (which would contradict the belief that he is perfect). Either way gets you to the conclusion that your God does not exist, based on reasoning from a clear bible passage.
(July 5, 2018 at 11:02 am)Drich Wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f8of3NAX-c
I don't see that your video adds anything to your point. Maybe you meant it to convey something, but what, I don't know.
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