(July 5, 2018 at 2:21 pm)Drich Wrote:(July 5, 2018 at 12:46 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: The thing is, Drich, either the relevant passages are specific enough to count as prophecy, in which case they are specific enough to count as evidence for a late dating of them, or the passages aren't specific enough to count as prophecy and a late dating. Christians generally have wanted to hold that the passages are specific enough. Holding that the passages are prophetic and not evidence for a late dating of the Gospel is simply being inconsistent. Either they are prophetic, which they would seem to need to be, unless Jesus is not God, or Jesus was simply talking out of his ass. If you want to adopt the latter position, that's fine, but then I'll have to hold you to the opinion that sometimes Jesus talks out of his ass in other debates and questions regarding him. Are you sure that's a position you want to consistently maintain?
I'll always side with what jesus says or is reported to say. fore there is always a "second" to support what is on the initial page. You may not see it but that is the wonderful thing I often do.. the challenged is to break it down so that you do to.
That doesn't actually answer the question. Was the reference legitimate prophecy or was Jesus just talking out of his ass?
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