(July 9, 2018 at 8:55 am)Huggy74 Wrote:(July 9, 2018 at 2:43 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: In the Bible it was moral for Abraham to spend his life banging his sister, killing and mutilating people, lying, robbing, committing adultery, child abuse. It was moral for Lot to pimp out his daughters to be gang raped and for them to have him knock them up. It was moral for Judah to screw Tamar for a goat and to threaten to burn her alive when he found out that she was preggers. It's moral for religious thugs to kill people for working on the sabbath. And it's moral to sell your kids into slavery.
What's the point of having any discussion with you if you're going to just claim whatever you want with no context? Take this one for instance:
(July 9, 2018 at 2:43 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: It was moral for Judah to screw Tamar for a goat and to threaten to burn her alive when he found out that she was preggers.
You're just bald faced lying at this point, gee I wonder why you didn't post any of the scriptures you referenced... because maybe they don't fit the narrative you're trying to portray?
Here is the full story in context.
Not really the picture you painted is it? Judah even stated he was wrong, so how is the bible condoning the behavior? it's simply stating what happened.
David, (of whom God said was a man after his own heart) got another mans wife pregnant and had him killed, the bible doesn't condone that behavior, It's just telling you what happened, and God punished David for it.
(July 9, 2018 at 2:43 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If you think that the Bible preaches love you're nuts. There's not one story in it that preaches interpersonal love. Jesus even said that his followers had to hate their families.
So when you find the five most moral things in the Bible you can post them and prove me wrong.
Spoken as someone who has no knowledge of the Bible, learn the different between law and grace, then we can discuss it.
Also, show where Jesus stated for one to hate their family, and I'd better see the word 'hate' prominently displayed.
Judah only admitted that he was wrong because he was proven to be the one who knocked up Tamar. If someone else had done it she would have been roasted well-done. His sons Perez and Zerah were bastards. IAW Deuteronomy 23:2 their decendants were barred from entering the assembly of the Lord for 10 generations. And then some more bastards popped up when Salmon knocked up the hooker Rahab and produced Boaz. And then Boaz knocked up the skank Ruth who had Jesse. Jesse's boy David then knocked up the 6 year-old Bathsheba and had Solomon. The end result was the Jesus character who came from a long line of bastards.
Deuteronomy 23:2 (KJV)= "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord."
As it says in Luke 14:26 (KJV) = "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
And don't forget, the Holy Spirit is the one that knocked up Mary. Joseph didn't get any nookie until after Jesus was born (Matthew 1:25 CEB) =
"But he didn’t have sexual relations with her until she gave birth to a son. Joseph called him Jesus."
So by definition Jesus was a bastard and was barred from entering the congregation of the Lord per Deuteronomy 23:2.