RE: Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus
July 9, 2018 at 1:00 pm
(This post was last modified: July 9, 2018 at 1:00 pm by Angrboda.)
(July 9, 2018 at 12:18 pm)Drich Wrote:(July 6, 2018 at 8:28 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: That doesn't mention any new discovery either. The only reference to 1995 there is regarding the aforementioned article which discusses the Testimonium in relation to the Gospel of Luke, and a quotation of it in the work of a tenth century writer which appears to simply be a quotation of earlier mentions (see here). The latter is easily explained as relying on the Eusebian account by way of the Syriac. Anyway, that version was known in 1909 and so cannot be the new discovery to which you refer.
What new discovery are you talking about?
there is a time line in the links provided that has discoveries posted on the josephus web site and in 1995 part of the time line outlines what was discovered.
apparently there was an arabic version found of the josephus' writings which included the bit about jesus being the messiah.
Already covered in my previous post. That Arabic version was known in 1909. How is that either a "discovery" or "new evidence" ?
(July 9, 2018 at 12:18 pm)Drich Wrote: Again messiah=/= God or son of God to the average Jew. They thought he were here to liberate them from Rome. Josephus with hindsight from the messiah's failure of 70 ad, awarded the title to Jesus given what he was known for, but the jews had him killed. Meaning the 70 ad event was punishment from God for killing the real 'savior' (again the jewish version.) They the Jews did not understand the type of salvation Jesus was offering.
This is presuming Josephus said any such thing. I don't think your explanation is consistent with the passage, and even if it is, it's just another ad hoc explanation.