(July 9, 2018 at 1:00 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(July 9, 2018 at 12:18 pm)Drich Wrote: there is a time line in the links provided that has discoveries posted on the josephus web site and in 1995 part of the time line outlines what was discovered.
apparently there was an arabic version found of the josephus' writings which included the bit about jesus being the messiah.
Already covered in my previous post. That Arabic version was known in 1909. How is that either a "discovery" or "new evidence" ?
(July 9, 2018 at 12:18 pm)Drich Wrote: Again messiah=/= God or son of God to the average Jew. They thought he were here to liberate them from Rome. Josephus with hindsight from the messiah's failure of 70 ad, awarded the title to Jesus given what he was known for, but the jews had him killed. Meaning the 70 ad event was punishment from God for killing the real 'savior' (again the jewish version.) They the Jews did not understand the type of salvation Jesus was offering.
This is presuming Josephus said any such thing. I don't think your explanation is consistent with the passage, and even if it is, it's just another ad hoc explanation.
http://www.josephus.org/testimonium.htm
This is the 9 points that result in the "1995 new view of the testimonium."
If you will note I simply cut and pasted the website's own view of this material word for word. if you are not happy with the synopsis then again write the website. I'm sure they will all stay up at night till your happy.