(September 14, 2011 at 6:42 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Special pleading, you can’t agree that Christian Theism is a worldview for the same reasons that make Atheism a worldview and then turn around and say atheism Is not a worldview. They either both are or they both are not.
I didn't say any of that, you dishonest piece of pudding*. I simply said Christianity is a worldview and atheism is not. Christianity is so far removed from atheism that your last statement is so ridiculously inaccurate as to be laughable.
Quote:Why would anyone believe they were not? “Sin” is a term only defined by the Bible and the Bible is clear that certain forms of pride are indeed sinful.
Allow me to rephrase that. The definition of sin, as found in the Bible is unbelievable by atheist standards. There is no god to make the rules. Do you see where I am going with this? Besides, he was pointing out your hubris. You were just being a rude prick.
Quote:Backtrack backtrack, and I demonstrated that it would be impossible for me to be sinfully prideful given my views on all of humanity and how we obtain what we know. Believing that everything good in me is solely a gracious and therefore undeserved gift from God is not prideful at all.
No, but believing you are better than anyone who isn't precisely the same as you is. Curious to know what the good in you is, though. Thusfar, you have proven to be dishonest, unkind and bigoted. I have yet to see you apologize for abrasiveness and preaching. I have yet to see you even consider that someone has more of a grasp on their own beliefs than you do and I have yet to see you participate in a conversation without using devious methods, despite it being obvious to all around you that you are being misleading and manipulative. At least, you are trying for the latter. I'm surprised you can manipulate your keyboard, to be honest.
Quote:The foundation of your life is your disbelief in the God of scripture.
Haha, no it isn't. My life had a foundation long before I even considered god. The god of scripture is a fairy tale. By your logic, the foundation of my life is also my disbelief in Disney movie stories.
Quote:So you just tried to prove I was dishonest by merely stating I was dishonest?
Stat, you know when you have lied or been deceitful. There is no reason for me to bring it out here.
Quote:You are not as smart as even I thought you were I guess. I want actual proof I have been dishonest about anything, if you can’t provide this then your accusations are unfounded and therefore dishonest themselves.
Whatever you say, Stat. Prove god is real and I will show you what you already know.
Quote:You made the comparison by taking the exact same position on morality that he did (prior to his conversion), don’t blame me.
I will blame you. You are making faulty comparisons based on what? Did I say that I am my own god? Do I fucking murder people? Do you actually know anything about my moral belief system at all? Answer is no to all of them. You're a Christian. You can be compared to some of the biggest monsters in history, yet you don't see me comparing you to child rapists and tortuous murderers, do you? Ease up on your bullshit, Stat. You sure know how to muddy a conversation with bullshit asides.
Quote:Why would you make such a big deal about authority vs. standard if you have neither? I rest my case. You have no ultimate authority/standard for truth. You are philosophically ignorant.
I still never said I didn't have a standard. You take things I don't say, use them as proof that I don't have something because I didn't say I had it then end with an insult.