(July 17, 2018 at 9:11 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:(July 17, 2018 at 1:13 am)Godscreated Wrote: You can't admit to my belief because you would be acknowledging that God was real, I understand that. Now tell me why is it that one invention comes from a previous one, if the previous one had not existed then the later would not have come along either. This is the way man's brain works and teaching is how we learn and move forward.
GC
You do a better job of turning people away from Christ with your posts GC than I ever could with mine. If God is real, I want to know. I don't believe your argument because it's inane. If God is real, it's not because people couldn't possibly have imagined gods unless they're real.
You are denying God not trying to find Him so don't give me that kinda' crap.
MA Wrote:All inventions have an ancestry that began with an original thought, unless you think the first of everything was created ex nihilo.
All inventions have an ancestry that begins with observation ie. seeing and then thought. The universe was most definitely was from nothing.
MA Wrote:But really, there's no point in arguing with someone who has so little experience with imagination that they can't imagine others having a bigger one than theirs. There are some people who look at an ink blot and can only see a blot of ink, I guess.
I have experience with imagination, imagination that comes from preconceived things. Those who look at an ink blot and see an image of something is because they have been exposed to that image before hand, the test is simple say what you have seen before this is the reality of the test. Those who say they see an ink blot are the ones telling the truth, they see what's before them ink splattered on a piece of paper. You are correct in say there is no need to carry this conversation on and not because of your reasons, it's because you haven't proven your POV.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.