(July 26, 2018 at 11:49 am)Graufreud Wrote:(July 25, 2018 at 11:18 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Even the forgeries like Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus? Those Christians will find anything divine as long as it's in the Bible.
I agree with the last sentence.
But are you sure about Ephesians, Colossians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 & 2 Timothy and Titus really being forgeries?
Sure I'm sure. For starters check on wikipedia for each of the epistles/ letters and go where the links lead you.
When it comes to Paul being some advanced philosopher, he was not.
For example, St. Paul denigrates literacy, logic, and learning 1 Corinthians 1:20 "Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?"
I mean he literally advocates for people to become idiots
1 Corinthians 4:10, "We are fools for Christ's sake, but you are wise in Christ"
1 Corinthians 2:1-2, "I did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God in lofty words or wisdom. For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified";
1 Corinthians 3:18-19, "Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you thinks that he is wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is folly with God."
Imagine adhering to a philosophy in which one of its prime propagandists openly advocates becoming a fool.
His other "enlightening" commands include telling people that women don't deserve to teach, have no rights, slaves to worship their owners and married people to live as brother and sister.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
