After birth abortion?

[LadyForCamus]

When you say that a fetus has no right to be in a woman’s womb it sounds like you’re insinuating that the fetus itself is trying to assert some control over the woman’s body that it thinks it deserves. That, Ofc, is ridiculous.  A fetus in the womb is not trying to claim undeserved rights.  It’s simply doing what it is biologically programmed to do, which is gestate.  Whether or not it’s allowed stay where it is, and continue that involuntary process to its completion is determined by others. The fetus obviously has no control of where it is, or what happens to it.

I never insinuated any such thing .That's a straw man of my position which i have made more then clear 

My position in no way argues the fetus is concisely carrying out the violation in question merely that it's actions are a violation if it is against the mothers will  .How you keep missing this i don't know ?

A fetus cannot ‘act’ in the colloquial sense of the word any more than a plant or a parasite can, because it is not conscious. Generally speaking, only people can act on each other.  I agree with you that government forcing a woman to continue an unwanted pregnancy (justified or not) will cause her to feel violated, but that has nothing to do with the fetus itself.  That violation is the result of the actions of grown adults.  The fetus is innocent.