RE: After birth abortion?
August 6, 2018 at 6:14 pm
(This post was last modified: August 6, 2018 at 6:17 pm by Amarok.)
Quote:I understand the point you are trying to make, but again, it seems unnecessarily vitriolic to refer to the fetus as a “violator.I'm sorry you feel it's vitriolic i simply consider it accurate
Quote:I’m saying that the fetus is not, and cannot be culpable, contrary to how you’ve colored your rhetoric, intentional or not. I’m not saying that is your position; I’m just explaining how it sounds to me.And i'm saying does not matter if culpable the result is the same i consider it's presence violation . I am sorry if i misinterpreted you words . But i'm afraid i don't consider my words rhetoric.
Quote:I will retract the word ‘innocent’ with regard to the fetus. It was imprecise and smells a bit of an appeal to emotion in retrospect.Fair enough i will not hold you to that word
Quote: I just mean that in situations of unwanted pregnancy, the fetus is not capable of making a moral decision about its presence.And mean that it does not matter as it does not alter the violation by presence or the drawing upon the woman's resources without her consent .
Quote:Comparing a fully developed, self-sufficient, adult parasite of another species to the fetal stage of human gestation is a false analogy.It would be a false analogy if i were trying to ontologically compare the two more i was pointing out that both organism feed off an unwilling host while themselves being driven by instinct not conscience malice. But both are violating the host and the host has every right to remove them .
Quote:That creature (ew, btw ?) does not carry the potential for personhood.Never said it did but that was not what i was arguing .But i don't put much stock in potential arguments every chunk of coal could be a potential diamond should i freeze to preserve it . In a human sense i refer back to my argument from cloning fetuses .
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