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Hello and question about hell
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(August 8, 2018 at 10:34 am)Jehanne Wrote: Sorry if this has already been posted, but life after death is trivial for modern Science to prove beyond any doubt whatsoever (emphasis mine):



Quote:Consciousness and near death experience research

Parnia has advocated for the use of the term "actual death experience" instead of near death experience (NDE), to describe human experiences that occur during a period of cardiac arrest. He has stated: “contrary to perception, death is not a specific moment but a potentially reversible process that occurs after any severe illness or accident causes the heart, lungs and brain to cease functioning. If attempts are made to reverse this process, it is referred to as ‘cardiac arrest’; however, if these attempts do not succeed it is called ‘death’. He has mostly studied those who have no heart beat and no detectable brain activity for periods of time and believes cardiac arrest is the optimal model to help understand the human experience of death.[2][17][18]

In 2001, Parnia and colleagues published the results of a year-long study of cardiac arrest survivors. 63 survivors were interviewed; 7 had memories of the time they were unconscious and 4 had experiences that, according to the study criteria, were NDEs. Out of body claims were tested by placing figures on suspended boards facing the ceiling, not visible from the floor. No positive results were reported, and no conclusions could be drawn due to the small number of subjects.[19]

AWAreness during REsuscitation (AWARE) study

While at University of Southampton, Parnia was the principal investigator of the AWARE Study, which was launched in 2008.[13] This study which concluded in 2012 included 33 investigators across 15 medical centers in the UK, Austria and the USA and tested consciousness, memories and awareness during cardiac arrest. The accuracy of claims of visual and auditory awareness was examined using specific tests.[20] One such test consisted in installing shelves, bearing a variety of images and facing the ceiling, hence not visible by hospital staff, in rooms where cardiac-arrest patients were more likely to occur.[21] The results of the study were published in October 2014; both the launch and the study results were widely discussed in the media.[21][22][23]

A review article analysing the results reports that, out of 2060 cardiac arrest events, 101 of 140 cardiac arrest survivors could complete the questionnaires. Of these 101 patients 9% could be classified as near death experiences. 2 more patients (2% of those completing the questionnaires) described "seeing and hearing actual events related to the period of cardiac arrest". These two patients' cardiac arrests did not occur in areas equipped with ceiling shelves hence no images could be used to objectively test for visual awareness claims. One of the two patients was too sick and the accuracy of her recount could not be verified. For the second patient instead, it was possible to verify the accuracy of the experience and to show that awareness occurred paradoxically some minutes after the heart stopped, at a time when "the brain ordinarily stops functioning and cortical activity becomes isoelectric." The experience was not compatible with an illusion, imaginary event or hallucination since visual (other than of ceiling shelves' images) and auditory awareness could be corroborated.[24]

AWAreness during REsuscitation (AWARE) study

Sorry, but failure to disprove the null hypothesis does not confirm it. Perhaps Huggy had a point, that people should be more guarded in their conclusions.

(Or, at least he did, until he stepped off and started with all this "it's true for him" and other nonsense.)
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Hello and question about hell - by Kyro - August 6, 2018 at 10:42 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2018 at 10:45 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 6, 2018 at 10:46 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 6, 2018 at 10:52 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Silver - August 6, 2018 at 10:55 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Valkyrie - August 6, 2018 at 11:01 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 6, 2018 at 11:02 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vulcanlogician - August 6, 2018 at 11:08 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 6, 2018 at 11:26 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 6, 2018 at 11:27 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vorlon13 - August 6, 2018 at 11:31 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Valkyrie - August 6, 2018 at 11:34 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 1:29 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by brewer - August 7, 2018 at 1:42 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 1:49 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by brewer - August 7, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 7, 2018 at 4:47 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 7:02 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 9:48 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Graufreud - August 8, 2018 at 10:19 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Mister Agenda - August 9, 2018 at 9:01 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Whateverist - August 9, 2018 at 10:00 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 9, 2018 at 10:34 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Mister Agenda - August 9, 2018 at 4:56 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 9, 2018 at 5:40 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Mister Agenda - August 10, 2018 at 3:00 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Cyberman - August 10, 2018 at 10:16 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by KevinM1 - August 11, 2018 at 2:08 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vulcanlogician - August 7, 2018 at 2:50 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 11:31 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vulcanlogician - August 10, 2018 at 5:07 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by KevinM1 - August 10, 2018 at 5:43 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 7, 2018 at 8:17 pm
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RE: Hello and question about hell - by Whateverist - August 6, 2018 at 11:17 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by LastPoet - August 7, 2018 at 8:28 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by brewer - August 7, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by vorlon13 - August 6, 2018 at 11:17 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Fireball - August 6, 2018 at 11:19 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Graufreud - August 6, 2018 at 11:21 pm
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RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 6, 2018 at 11:30 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 1:33 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by JairCrawford - August 7, 2018 at 1:41 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 2:01 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Graufreud - August 7, 2018 at 4:14 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Ravenshire - August 8, 2018 at 12:41 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Fake Messiah - August 7, 2018 at 5:18 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 7, 2018 at 8:05 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Crossless2.0 - August 7, 2018 at 1:36 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Huggy Bear - August 7, 2018 at 2:45 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by robvalue - August 7, 2018 at 2:19 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Grand Nudger - August 7, 2018 at 2:52 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 7, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Silver - August 8, 2018 at 10:22 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 10:34 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 8, 2018 at 11:26 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by LastPoet - August 8, 2018 at 12:56 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Whateverist - August 8, 2018 at 1:04 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 8, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 2:29 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by KevinM1 - August 8, 2018 at 2:48 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Valkyrie - August 8, 2018 at 2:53 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 8, 2018 at 2:56 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Minimalist - August 8, 2018 at 2:41 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by robvalue - August 8, 2018 at 3:44 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Jehanne - August 8, 2018 at 8:38 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by The Valkyrie - August 8, 2018 at 5:54 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Mr.Obvious - August 8, 2018 at 7:45 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by robvalue - August 9, 2018 at 10:30 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 10:36 am
RE: Hello and question about hell - by Angrboda - August 9, 2018 at 5:46 pm
RE: Hello and question about hell - by LastPoet - August 9, 2018 at 5:47 pm

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