After birth abortion?

[Amarok]

What? My point was that my argument isn't that a human fetus is a "potential human" in the first place. That was a strawman you created. (I don't even know what that means, honestly. Either a particular organism is a human, or it isn't.)

My argument is that a human fetus IS a human being, just as much as a human infant, human toddler, human child, human teenager, human adult, etc... and so as a human, he/she has the same right to life as a human being in all other stages of life. That is my argument.

Nope Jorms right again it's semantics

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I don't think that this conflicts in the way that you think (or says what you think it says)!    However, I believe that an unborn baby is alive and that abortion is killing something.   Don't you?    I wouldn't have thought that this would controversial.

Tell that to your god