(August 13, 2018 at 6:26 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:(August 13, 2018 at 3:42 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: I don't think that this conflicts in the way that you think (or says what you think it says)! However, I believe that an unborn baby is alive and that abortion is killing something. Don't you? I wouldn't have thought that this would controversial.
The fetus is UNENSOULED.
It is not a son of Adam, it does not participate in Original Sin, it does not need to believe in Jesus for Salvation because it has no immortal soul.
I'm not saying it isn't alive, but Scripture is clear, until the first success breath, it has no immortal soul.
A rose bush is alive, but has no immortal soul, same for a fungus or a mouse or a fish. I'm at a loss how someone in the religious orbit can be confused or willfully ignorant about this.
Ok... but the scripture you quoted doesn’t say that at all. It says that God breathes Spirit into Adam, not that Adam breathed and became human.
You may also note that some of those organisms you mentioned also breath. So the question is where are you getting this, and why do you think I should believe it.
Jorm’s answer seems pretty good as well.
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If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
