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The death penalty makes no sense.
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
(August 14, 2018 at 12:01 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(August 14, 2018 at 9:25 am)Jehanne Wrote: This morning at 10 AM CDT, the State of Nebraska is set to execute Carey Dean Moore, who says that he is "ready to die".  His victims' families approve of his upcoming execution.  But, when Mr. Moore dies a (hopefully) peaceful death, he will cease to exist, and hence, no longer suffer the punishments of prison.  In fact, if he experiences what I experienced a few days ago when I fainted while on my feet due to a brief illness (probably, mono), he will never even experience death.  Instead, he will go to sleep and then die.

In this sense, how can the death penalty be said to be "punishment"; isn't it just better to leave Mr. Moore in prison for the rest of his life if you wish to see him be punished for his heinous crimes?  Instead, Mr. Moore gets to end his life on the World stage, on the front pages of major newspapers across the Globe.

Then why do most all of them keep appealing and delaying the execution?

Most of them wish to live, but once they are dead, then, there is no punishment.  In fact, most death row prisoners end their lives on the gurney in a dignified, even stately, manner.

(August 14, 2018 at 12:00 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(August 14, 2018 at 9:25 am)Jehanne Wrote: This morning at 10 AM CDT, the State of Nebraska is set to execute Carey Dean Moore, who says that he is "ready to die".  His victims' families approve of his upcoming execution.  But, when Mr. Moore dies a (hopefully) peaceful death, he will cease to exist, and hence, no longer suffer the punishments of prison.  In fact, if he experiences what I experienced a few days ago when I fainted while on my feet due to a brief illness (probably, mono), he will never even experience death.  Instead, he will go to sleep and then die.

In this sense, how can the death penalty be said to be "punishment"; isn't it just better to leave Mr. Moore in prison for the rest of his life if you wish to see him be punished for his heinous crimes?  Instead, Mr. Moore gets to end his life on the World stage, on the front pages of major newspapers across the Globe.

Yes, but if you are going to argue what most really think about, outside moral issues, the real reason you should object to the death penalty is the cost to the tax payer. ON AVERAGE it costs the tax payer far more to prosecute a death penalty case than it does to give them life without parole. 

The moral reason to object to it is that it hurts those without financial means to defend themselves, not just the poor, but the middle class as well. Not everyone has the money of a millionaire or billionaire who commits the same crime. And far too often it hurts minorities more on average for the same accusation.

In the end, it just creates more victims, in particular, the executed inmate's family, and in some cases, the victim's family, some of whom go on to regret the killing of the perpetrator, not to mention the stress on the correction officers who carry-out the death sentence.
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The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 9:25 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 14, 2018 at 9:28 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 9:31 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Joods - August 14, 2018 at 11:51 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by downbeatplumb - August 14, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by SaStrike - August 15, 2018 at 5:09 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 15, 2018 at 5:15 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 5:22 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 16, 2018 at 1:16 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by SaStrike - August 16, 2018 at 1:57 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 16, 2018 at 2:49 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 14, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 14, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 10:22 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Ravenshire - August 14, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 14, 2018 at 12:00 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by John V - August 14, 2018 at 12:01 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 12:05 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Ravenshire - August 14, 2018 at 12:31 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 1:12 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Minimalist - August 14, 2018 at 3:20 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by vulcanlogician - August 14, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 12:39 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by robvalue - August 14, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 14, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by robvalue - August 15, 2018 at 1:56 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 3:29 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 15, 2018 at 7:02 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 7:12 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by robvalue - August 16, 2018 at 9:38 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Chad32 - August 14, 2018 at 12:57 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by mlmooney89 - August 14, 2018 at 2:54 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 5:04 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 8:57 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Javaman - August 14, 2018 at 5:57 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by vulcanlogician - August 14, 2018 at 6:18 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Javaman - August 14, 2018 at 7:02 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by brewer - August 14, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Chad32 - August 14, 2018 at 6:43 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Minimalist - August 14, 2018 at 6:56 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 8:28 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 14, 2018 at 9:49 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 10:08 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 12:01 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 11:51 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2018 at 12:09 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 4:01 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2018 at 4:52 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 5:20 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2018 at 9:55 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 10:18 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 16, 2018 at 10:58 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 14, 2018 at 9:57 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 10:01 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 14, 2018 at 10:23 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 10:25 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 14, 2018 at 11:48 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 14, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 14, 2018 at 11:51 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 15, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Ravenshire - August 15, 2018 at 12:54 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 15, 2018 at 1:09 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 4:58 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 14, 2018 at 11:56 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 11:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 11:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 12:00 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 15, 2018 at 12:17 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 12:58 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 15, 2018 at 2:38 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Aegon - August 15, 2018 at 8:36 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by vulcanlogician - August 15, 2018 at 12:31 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by mlmooney89 - August 15, 2018 at 1:55 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Angrboda - August 15, 2018 at 2:48 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 15, 2018 at 3:32 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 3:36 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 8:30 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Angrboda - August 16, 2018 at 9:16 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 1:49 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Angrboda - August 16, 2018 at 1:52 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 2:16 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by mlmooney89 - August 15, 2018 at 2:04 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 15, 2018 at 2:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by mlmooney89 - August 15, 2018 at 4:19 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 4:22 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Nay_Sayer - August 15, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 10:13 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 10:23 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 10:35 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Nay_Sayer - August 16, 2018 at 5:19 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 10:47 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 12:43 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 12:58 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 1:43 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 5:12 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Angrboda - August 16, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 16, 2018 at 4:10 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Angrboda - August 16, 2018 at 7:05 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 17, 2018 at 4:13 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 12:51 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by snowtracks - August 16, 2018 at 1:21 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 2:03 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 2:53 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 16, 2018 at 6:47 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 16, 2018 at 2:58 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 9:53 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Chad32 - August 16, 2018 at 10:06 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 9:59 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 10:08 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 10:59 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Mister Agenda - August 16, 2018 at 10:30 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by robvalue - August 16, 2018 at 11:28 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:34 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 11:36 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 11:41 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:42 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 11:43 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:44 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 11:47 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 2:17 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 16, 2018 at 4:06 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 16, 2018 at 5:24 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 5:27 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 6:01 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 16, 2018 at 8:19 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 8:43 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 10:04 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 10:42 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:09 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:19 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:29 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 10:44 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:23 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:24 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:32 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:32 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:39 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:45 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:47 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 17, 2018 at 1:28 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:51 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:53 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:54 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:56 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:59 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 17, 2018 at 12:03 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:53 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2018 at 12:03 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 17, 2018 at 12:10 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2018 at 1:30 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:56 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 17, 2018 at 12:00 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:03 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:59 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:00 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 12:02 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 17, 2018 at 12:30 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:06 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 17, 2018 at 12:45 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:12 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 12:12 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:13 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 12:32 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:36 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 1:01 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Angrboda - August 17, 2018 at 6:52 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 17, 2018 at 7:11 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 17, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2018 at 1:11 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 17, 2018 at 3:11 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 17, 2018 at 3:34 pm

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