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The death penalty makes no sense.
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense.
(August 15, 2018 at 11:51 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(August 15, 2018 at 11:39 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: Why should a person like BTK get to continue living?

Holy crap, nobody gives a fuck about that sicko, not the point.

The point is our laws cover everyone, not just the famous people you hear about. In a perfect world I would agree, but we DON'T LIVE in a perfect world, and it is easy to armchair quarterback solely based on famous cases. 

I just told you WHY it is a bad thing. I personally talked to a man who spoke at the college I went to, whom WAS ON DEATH ROW, and why was he? Because the prosecutor DID NOT disclose evidence to the defense that would have PREVENTED the charges from being filed in the first place. AND I also talked to a prisoner almost executed SOLELY based on the testimony of another prisoner. Prisoners can and do lie to get more privilege in prison.

You cannot take a small sample and base your parameters based on that one sample. EVEN outside the issue of murder, if you do not have the money like a rich person, it is harder for you to defend yourself solely with the help of a public defender.

In a perfect world I'd agree, but since our justice system DOES NOT FUND public defenders enough to defend their overwhelming case loads, mistakes can and are made all the time. 

THAT GOES WITH ANY CRIME, not just the famous ones you hear about.

BTK wasn’t meant to be my whole argument in favor of the death penalty; Jesus. That was simply my
response to Tiz’s pointed question. Sometimes it feels like you are talking at me, instead of to me. I will concede that it makes no pragmatic sense considering the facts, and it should be stopped if even one innocent person is wrongfully executed, which I understand happens. I’m simply saying that if there was a way we could prevent that from ever happening again, then I would have no moral objection to executing people the likes of the BTK.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”

Wiser words were never spoken. 
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The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 9:25 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 14, 2018 at 9:28 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 9:31 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Joods - August 14, 2018 at 11:51 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by downbeatplumb - August 14, 2018 at 12:59 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by SaStrike - August 15, 2018 at 5:09 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 15, 2018 at 5:15 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 5:22 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 16, 2018 at 1:16 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by SaStrike - August 16, 2018 at 1:57 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 16, 2018 at 2:49 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 14, 2018 at 9:30 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 14, 2018 at 9:50 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 10:22 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Ravenshire - August 14, 2018 at 10:20 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 14, 2018 at 12:00 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by John V - August 14, 2018 at 12:01 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 12:05 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Ravenshire - August 14, 2018 at 12:31 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 1:12 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Minimalist - August 14, 2018 at 3:20 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by vulcanlogician - August 14, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 12:39 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by robvalue - August 14, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 14, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by robvalue - August 15, 2018 at 1:56 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 3:29 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 15, 2018 at 7:02 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 7:12 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by robvalue - August 16, 2018 at 9:38 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Chad32 - August 14, 2018 at 12:57 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 14, 2018 at 5:04 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 8:57 am
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by vulcanlogician - August 14, 2018 at 6:18 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by brewer - August 14, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Chad32 - August 14, 2018 at 6:43 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Minimalist - August 14, 2018 at 6:56 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 8:28 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 14, 2018 at 9:49 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 10:08 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 12:01 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2018 at 11:39 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 11:51 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2018 at 12:09 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 4:01 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2018 at 4:52 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 5:20 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 15, 2018 at 9:55 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 10:18 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Foxaèr - August 16, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 16, 2018 at 10:58 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 14, 2018 at 9:57 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 10:01 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 14, 2018 at 10:23 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 10:25 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 14, 2018 at 11:48 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 14, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 14, 2018 at 11:51 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 15, 2018 at 12:25 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Ravenshire - August 15, 2018 at 12:54 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 15, 2018 at 1:09 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 4:58 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 14, 2018 at 11:56 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 14, 2018 at 11:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 14, 2018 at 11:58 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 12:58 am
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Aegon - August 15, 2018 at 8:36 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 12:13 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by vulcanlogician - August 15, 2018 at 12:31 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by mlmooney89 - August 15, 2018 at 1:55 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 15, 2018 at 3:32 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 15, 2018 at 3:36 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 8:30 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 2:16 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by mlmooney89 - August 15, 2018 at 2:04 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 15, 2018 at 2:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by mlmooney89 - August 15, 2018 at 4:19 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 4:22 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Nay_Sayer - August 15, 2018 at 9:58 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 10:23 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Nay_Sayer - August 16, 2018 at 5:19 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 15, 2018 at 10:47 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 15, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 12:43 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 12:58 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 1:43 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 5:12 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Angrboda - August 16, 2018 at 1:48 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 16, 2018 at 4:10 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Angrboda - August 16, 2018 at 7:05 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 17, 2018 at 4:13 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 15, 2018 at 10:50 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 12:51 am
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 16, 2018 at 6:47 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 16, 2018 at 2:58 am
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 10:59 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 16, 2018 at 4:06 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Brian37 - August 16, 2018 at 5:24 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 5:27 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 16, 2018 at 8:19 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 8:43 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:29 pm
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RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:32 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:39 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:45 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:47 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Cyberman - August 17, 2018 at 1:28 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:51 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:53 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:54 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:50 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:56 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:59 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 17, 2018 at 12:03 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:53 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 16, 2018 at 11:57 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2018 at 12:03 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 17, 2018 at 12:10 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2018 at 1:30 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 16, 2018 at 11:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 16, 2018 at 11:56 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 17, 2018 at 12:00 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:03 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 16, 2018 at 11:59 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:00 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 12:02 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 17, 2018 at 12:30 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:06 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Valkyrie - August 17, 2018 at 12:45 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:12 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 12:12 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:13 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 12:32 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 12:36 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Amarok - August 17, 2018 at 1:01 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Angrboda - August 17, 2018 at 6:52 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Jehanne - August 17, 2018 at 7:11 am
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 17, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by Anomalocaris - August 17, 2018 at 1:11 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by The Grand Nudger - August 17, 2018 at 12:58 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 17, 2018 at 3:11 pm
RE: The death penalty makes no sense. - by LadyForCamus - August 17, 2018 at 3:34 pm

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