RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 11:00 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2018 at 11:03 am by possibletarian.)
(August 18, 2018 at 10:54 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 18, 2018 at 10:44 am)Divinity Wrote: Would you be okay if someone refused to make a cake for a Christian Wedding? In fact let's say multiple cake shops refuse it.
Why are they refusing to do the job? I think that if it goes against their conscience, they can refuse a job that has a message against the LGBT. A gay florist could refuse a job for a float that conveys a message they don’t agree with.
If a person came in and asked to make a birthday cake, which also conveys a message celebrating their induction into the klan, do you think a person should be able to refuse that order? Does it make a difference if the message is explicit or implicit?
We generally are talking about what the law says about what or who you can discriminate against here, and on gender identity the law is clear, on some of the other matters it is less so.
(August 18, 2018 at 10:54 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 18, 2018 at 10:44 am)Divinity Wrote: Would you be okay if someone refused to make a cake for a Christian Wedding? In fact let's say multiple cake shops refuse it.
Why are they refusing to do the job? I think that if it goes against their conscience, they can refuse a job that has a message against the LGBT. A gay florist could refuse a job for a float that conveys a message they don’t agree with.
If a person came in and asked to make a birthday cake, which also conveys a message celebrating their induction into the klan, do you think a person should be able to refuse that order? Does it make a difference if the message is explicit or implicit?
(August 18, 2018 at 10:49 am)possibletarian Wrote: White supremacy says ''I'm better than you'' asking to bake a wedding cake for whatever the self identified gender is saying 'I love you'
The two are simply not the same.
Do you believe in freedom of speech only when you agree with the position?
Actually i have a very wide tolerance when it comes to freedom of speech, after all I don't have to listen to it, but again you are purposely confusing freedom of speech with freedom to act as a person wants. Otherwise can you imagine anything but chaos ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'