Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
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Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
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 Leader of the gang of jerkoffs(tm)  Religious Views: L'Uomo verrà portato dalla sua creazione RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 10:35 am
When my uncle turned 69 we bought a cake in the shape of boobs. The artist wasn't bothered with that request. Or as my wife told me, they bought a cake for a friend of hers batchelor party that was shaped like a penis with balls and everything.
Those can be expensive cakes, but no probçlem besides that.  RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 10:36 am
This shop has stated that they do not make those cakes either
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 10:44 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2018 at 10:45 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Theres alot of things the hatebaker wont do..it just so happens that one of them is adhering to state and federal anti-discrimination laws.
It's his contention that christer god demands this behavior, that he needs a religious exemption to the law. Unless it's also yours, you might not want to carry that jug of water.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
 RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 10:44 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2018 at 10:45 am by Divinity.)
Would you be okay if someone refused to make a cake for a Christian Wedding? In fact let's say multiple cake shops refuse it.
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 10:47 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2018 at 10:48 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 18, 2018 at 10:35 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Would people feel the same, if the message being asked to be made into the cake was one of white supremacy? Would you then refuse to make the cake? White supremecy isn't a protected status and the irony of you going for that example in a discrimination case is fucking delicious - it was white supremecy that these laws were initially formed to combat, lol. Nazis go home....Try again.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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August 18, 2018 at 10:49 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2018 at 10:49 am by possibletarian.)
White supremacy says ''I'm better than you'' asking to bake a wedding cake for whatever the self identified gender is saying 'I love you'
The two are simply not the same.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 10:54 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2018 at 10:57 am by RoadRunner79.)
(August 18, 2018 at 10:44 am)Divinity Wrote: Would you be okay if someone refused to make a cake for a Christian Wedding? In fact let's say multiple cake shops refuse it. Why are they refusing to do the job? I think that if it goes against their conscience, they can refuse a job that has a message against the LGBT. A gay florist could refuse a job for a float that conveys a message they don’t agree with. If a person came in and asked to make a birthday cake, which also conveys a message celebrating their induction into the klan, do you think a person should be able to refuse that order? Does it make a difference if the message is explicit or implicit? (August 18, 2018 at 10:49 am)possibletarian Wrote: White supremacy says ''I'm better than you'' asking to bake a wedding cake for whatever the self identified gender is saying 'I love you' Do you believe in freedom of speech only when you agree with the position?
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 11:00 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2018 at 11:03 am by possibletarian.)
(August 18, 2018 at 10:54 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 18, 2018 at 10:44 am)Divinity Wrote: Would you be okay if someone refused to make a cake for a Christian Wedding? In fact let's say multiple cake shops refuse it. We generally are talking about what the law says about what or who you can discriminate against here, and on gender identity the law is clear, on some of the other matters it is less so. (August 18, 2018 at 10:54 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 18, 2018 at 10:44 am)Divinity Wrote: Would you be okay if someone refused to make a cake for a Christian Wedding? In fact let's say multiple cake shops refuse it. Actually i have a very wide tolerance when it comes to freedom of speech, after all I don't have to listen to it, but again you are purposely confusing freedom of speech with freedom to act as a person wants. Otherwise can you imagine anything but chaos ?
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 11:04 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2018 at 11:06 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 18, 2018 at 10:54 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 18, 2018 at 10:44 am)Divinity Wrote: Would you be okay if someone refused to make a cake for a Christian Wedding? In fact let's say multiple cake shops refuse it. Free speech grifting in action, lol. Nothing says Christian Moral Character™ like pretending that discrimination and white supremacy is free speech.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 18, 2018 at 11:16 am
(August 18, 2018 at 11:04 am)Khemikal Wrote: Free speech grifting in action, lol. Nothing says Christian Moral Character™ like pretending that discrimination and white supremacy is free speech. Especially repulsive considering that most 'white supremacy' groups (especially in the U.S.) are devoted to protecting christian values (or some other religious nutjobbery) or way of life.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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