RE: Ask the Christian
September 18, 2011 at 9:37 am
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2011 at 9:38 am by Welsh cake.)
(September 17, 2011 at 5:07 pm)FutureAndAHope Wrote: We are going to spend eternity with a loving God not a vindictive God. Jesus talked about unlimited forgiveness in this age (77x7). It also says "God does not desire that any perish but all come to repentance", this mirrors the OT where God says he "Does not delight in the death of the wicked...but rather they turn and live".And those who blaspheme against the Holy Spirit also get unlimited forgiveness? Oh wait, of course not, god concepts created by man have silly and arbitrary rules that must be obeyed regardless. If it truly wanted "love", it wouldn't have set up a reality where it ultimately gets its plans thwarted by the will of half-arsed men. Some all-powerful (and oddly male) tribal god you got there.
Quote:But yes there is a hell.*Loving god concept gets thrown out the window*
Its remarkable how you dismantle your arguments faster than I ever could.
(September 17, 2011 at 5:15 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: That's not my belief. Well, it would seem that most people would; but I believe that in the fullness of time, God wins. The undeniable truth ends up being accepted. Punishment meets the crime. If you want it. The human lifetime is insignificant against eternity. In that time frame everyone will have worked it out and have inflicted enough pain on themselves. God wins.By punishing us until we turn back to this monster? Really? That's not love Frodo.
Do you force yourself onto people who don't want anything to do with you too?
(September 18, 2011 at 8:21 am)FutureAndAHope Wrote: It is not about rules it is realising we can all have a relationship with God that when we get closer to him our sin gets less.Even if he were proven to exist why would we want to?
I find the concept utterly repugnant, no matter which way you 'advertise' it.
