RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 20, 2018 at 11:47 am
(This post was last modified: August 20, 2018 at 11:51 am by robvalue.)
What he's saying doesn't make any sense anyway.
His religious beliefs force him to say that there's no such thing as transgender, for some reason. I guess he's not concerned about whether or not that's actually true; otherwise religion wouldn't enter into it.
But even if he does think it's true, what is the problem? He's not being asked whether it's real thing or not, he's being asked to bake a cake. A cake that has no message on it at all. Now sure, he could just decline because he has a problem with that particular design for some reason. Maybe it would be awkward for the kind of tools he uses, or whatever. He doesn't have to give a specific reason I imagine.
Instead, he feels like he can't make the cake because it means something to the customer that he thinks is untrue, and he has to give a speech about it. Never mind that no one asked his opinion; but would he refuse to make any cake which featured anything he considered non-factual, such as... a goblin? I don't believe goblins are real, so I refuse to make a cake with a goblin on. I don't believe people can be goblins, so I refuse to make a half man / half goblin cake.
I don't see how his belief being religious is even relevant here at all, except as attempted shielding from the law.
His religious beliefs force him to say that there's no such thing as transgender, for some reason. I guess he's not concerned about whether or not that's actually true; otherwise religion wouldn't enter into it.
But even if he does think it's true, what is the problem? He's not being asked whether it's real thing or not, he's being asked to bake a cake. A cake that has no message on it at all. Now sure, he could just decline because he has a problem with that particular design for some reason. Maybe it would be awkward for the kind of tools he uses, or whatever. He doesn't have to give a specific reason I imagine.
Instead, he feels like he can't make the cake because it means something to the customer that he thinks is untrue, and he has to give a speech about it. Never mind that no one asked his opinion; but would he refuse to make any cake which featured anything he considered non-factual, such as... a goblin? I don't believe goblins are real, so I refuse to make a cake with a goblin on. I don't believe people can be goblins, so I refuse to make a half man / half goblin cake.
I don't see how his belief being religious is even relevant here at all, except as attempted shielding from the law.
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