RE: Masterpiece Cakeshop v. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, Round 2
August 20, 2018 at 2:32 pm
(August 20, 2018 at 1:00 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: That's why I keep saying, what exactly is the law here? Is a Baker allowed to refuse services to an event/cause that he is morally opposed to? The answer is either yes or no. It makes no sense to say "well, you are allowed to refuse for this event, but not for this other event..."
Another much less extreme example is a cake that says "Pro Choice" on it for a pro choice fundraiser. I would absolutely refuse. Because it is a cause I am morally opposed to and I want no part in it. I either have the legal right to refuse, or I don't. Just like with the white supremacist example.
Likewise, if you are an atheist and you are strongly morally opposed to the "indoctrination of children" or whatever you wanna call it, you should be legally allowed to refuse to bake a cake for an infant baptism or a 2nd grade first communion.
It doesnt matter what the cause is, as far as the law is concerned. If you are morally opposed, you either should or should not have the right to refuse taking part in it by creating and providing a cake for it.
You make some good points, however there are people in this country who absolutely take advantage of a situation and intentionally oppress certain groups or classes of individuals. This is why there are anti-discrimination laws in this country that specifically protect certain groups of people. There are going to be people who don't agree with the causes of others and that's fine. But when people show their hate and disdain for someone because of who they were born as or the for the color of their skin, for example, that's not okay. It's bigotry and against the laws of this country.
To put it another way; If someone found records from the baker that proved he refused to sell cakes to gay people, then that's arguably blatant discrimination against gay people. And he could be sued for that.
Conversely, if a gay couple went in looking for a cake and told the baker when the cake was needed by and the baker said he was already booked for another venue that day, that's not discrimination because he simply doesn't have the time to bake the cake on the requested day.
Disclaimer: I am only responsible for what I say, not what you choose to understand.
