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the god created science argument
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RE: the god created science argument
(September 19, 2011 at 3:36 am)lucent Wrote: So fucking what! More people believing something doesn't make it accurate or valid. That's not an answer, that's a cop out.

You need to read the question. My answer was a response to the declaration of DeistPaladin that God is shy. God obviously isn't very shy if at least 2 billion people know about Him.

And I wonder how many people believe it is bad luck to walk under a ladder, or that breaking a mirror will somehow negatively impact one's future for a specific length of time.

Quote:Literally true? Prove it. Prove it. Prove it.

Good luck. Pray really hard and I am sure your Jesus friend will show you how to prove it conclusively. You know him so well, and all.


I could point you to much testimony, video or otherwise, delcaring these things to be true. Would you believe them? There is a point where skepticism is willfully blind. I would ask, if you're a true skeptic, why are you so certain that what I am saying isn't true?

I could testify right now that I feel the power of Horus working in my life. Would you believe it? I am certain that what you say isn't true because all you have to show for it's truthfulness is some words. You can't back anything up with facts. You have nothing, so why should I believe you anymore than I would believe a used car salesman, or 2 billion of them for that matter, who assured me that a certain car was in great condition and I should buy it. People lie. Until I see the carfax report and the maintenance history, I'm not buying the piece of shit.

Quote:Why doesn't God just smite Satan and all his demons? Is Satan that slick that he can cause so much evil all over the world and evade detection? If God is so powerful, why doesn't he do away with all that, much in the way that he created the trillions or more suns in our universe... ya know, with the wave of his hand? It's easier to destroy things than it is to make things, so why not destroy Satan and his crew, thereby removing evil from the world? Doesn't he love us?

I know that if a bully were messing with my kid, I would do something about it. I wouldn't just sit there filing my nails, letting the shit happen. If that's who the fuck your God is, then I don't want to know him. Next time you have one of your little chats with him, tell him I said to get fucking bent. I can't stand lazy, shitty parents.


In actuality, Satan, while he is the primary source of evil, doesn't actually cause anyone to do evil. Satan isn't responsible for the evil in the world, human beings are. Satan tempts, but people choose. He devises schemes, and people willfully execute them. God allows Satan to exist because He gives people the choice between good and evil. If they prefer sin and Satans wicked schemes, they will earn his reward, eternal punishment. If they prefer truth and the righteousness of God, they will receive Gods reward, eternal life. Everyone reaps what they sow. This isn't about evidence, it's about what kind of person you are. The evidence will come according to your moral choices in life. Even then God is merciful and is patient, desiring everyone to come to repentance. Only unrepentant sinners ultimately go to hell. It isn't because God wasn't plausible, it is because they preferred evil, and God rewarded them according to their choices.

The problem is sin. If you've ever lied, cheated or stolen anything, lusted, hated, blasphemed etc, you are guilty of it, and the penalty of sin is death. The good news is, Jesus already paid that price on the cross. And even if it was just you, He would have done it. He took our just punishment upon Himself so we could be declared not guilty. He tasted death for all so we could receive eternal life. God isn't sitting back. He took direct action in this world so everyone could be saved. It's just up to you how you respond to it.


First of all, I insist that you stop using words like "Literally" and "Actually" when referencing something that you can't prove to be literal or actual.

Now, how poetic, but it's all just a bunch of crap. The bible perverts basic humanity. It outlaws sex, thinking about sex, questioning, surviving, and forming harsh opinions about something that's personally offensive. I have a problem with that, especially since it's fine with murder, extortion, incest, and slavery.

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the god created science argument - by xxxtobymac - September 18, 2011 at 5:09 am
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 6:07 am
RE: the god created science argument - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2011 at 6:30 am
RE: the god created science argument - by downbeatplumb - September 18, 2011 at 10:00 am
RE: the god created science argument - by weakagnostic - September 18, 2011 at 4:07 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by IATIA - September 18, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by fr0d0 - September 18, 2011 at 5:28 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by KichigaiNeko - September 18, 2011 at 6:10 am
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 6:14 am
RE: the god created science argument - by KichigaiNeko - September 18, 2011 at 6:27 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Welsh cake - September 18, 2011 at 9:52 am
RE: the god created science argument - by 5thHorseman - September 18, 2011 at 10:13 am
RE: the god created science argument - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2011 at 10:31 am
RE: the god created science argument - by xxxtobymac - September 18, 2011 at 10:42 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Epimethean - September 18, 2011 at 10:46 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Ace Otana - September 18, 2011 at 11:08 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Minimalist - September 18, 2011 at 2:21 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by DeistPaladin - September 18, 2011 at 2:31 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 18, 2011 at 11:33 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by DeistPaladin - September 18, 2011 at 11:47 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 19, 2011 at 12:39 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Erinome - September 19, 2011 at 2:46 am
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 19, 2011 at 3:36 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Erinome - September 19, 2011 at 5:05 am
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 19, 2011 at 6:00 am
RE: the god created science argument - by IATIA - September 19, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by DeistPaladin - September 19, 2011 at 11:47 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 20, 2011 at 2:04 am
RE: the god created science argument - by DeistPaladin - September 20, 2011 at 2:56 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 20, 2011 at 8:11 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by DeistPaladin - September 20, 2011 at 10:44 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 21, 2011 at 3:04 am
RE: the god created science argument - by DeistPaladin - September 21, 2011 at 8:22 am
RE: the god created science argument - by LastPoet - September 21, 2011 at 9:37 am
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 21, 2011 at 4:08 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by DeistPaladin - September 21, 2011 at 6:01 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 21, 2011 at 6:32 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by Ace Otana - September 18, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by frankiej - September 18, 2011 at 4:44 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by Epimethean - September 18, 2011 at 5:55 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by DeistPaladin - September 18, 2011 at 10:55 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by Epimethean - September 18, 2011 at 11:13 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by DeistPaladin - September 18, 2011 at 11:32 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by Epimethean - September 18, 2011 at 11:42 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by 5thHorseman - September 19, 2011 at 3:40 am
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 19, 2011 at 4:04 am
RE: the god created science argument - by KichigaiNeko - September 19, 2011 at 6:06 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Epimethean - September 19, 2011 at 8:23 am
RE: the god created science argument - by KichigaiNeko - September 19, 2011 at 10:18 am
RE: the god created science argument - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by lucent - September 21, 2011 at 6:11 am
RE: the god created science argument - by searchingforanswers - September 19, 2011 at 12:53 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by Minimalist - September 19, 2011 at 1:53 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by LastPoet - September 19, 2011 at 2:03 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by xxxtobymac - September 19, 2011 at 2:45 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by 5thHorseman - September 20, 2011 at 2:27 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Epimethean - September 20, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Epimethean - September 20, 2011 at 10:53 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by KichigaiNeko - September 21, 2011 at 6:27 am
RE: the god created science argument - by BloodyHeretic - September 21, 2011 at 8:10 am
RE: the god created science argument - by IATIA - September 21, 2011 at 11:32 am
RE: the god created science argument - by Epimethean - September 21, 2011 at 8:29 am
RE: the god created science argument - by frankiej - September 21, 2011 at 10:13 am
RE: the god created science argument - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2011 at 11:52 am
RE: the god created science argument - by fr0d0 - September 21, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by BloodyHeretic - September 21, 2011 at 2:12 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by fr0d0 - September 21, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2011 at 4:23 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by fr0d0 - September 21, 2011 at 5:18 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2011 at 5:45 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by fr0d0 - September 21, 2011 at 7:48 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2011 at 8:29 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by fr0d0 - September 21, 2011 at 9:40 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by medviation - September 26, 2011 at 11:53 am
RE: the god created science argument - by fr0d0 - September 26, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by The Grand Nudger - September 26, 2011 at 3:40 pm
RE: the god created science argument - by Epimethean - September 26, 2011 at 6:59 pm

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