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Question for the theist.
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RE: Question for the theist.
(May 21, 2009 at 2:31 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Omniscient, Omnipresent, Omnipotent...

So your god is omnipotent (all powerful), omniscient (all knowing) and omnipresent (everywhere) so therefore it can do anything, be anywhere, knows everything (past, present & future) and I presume you'd also claim it was omni-benevolent (most theists seem to).

But let's deal with the ones cited ... your God apparently knows everything there is to know which must include past, present and future; that means it can change its mind but actually can't do because it would already know in advance that it would change its mind therefore its not a change. Quite apart from denying omnipotency if it knows everything then it will know every single thing we do, every thought we have and no matter what we do it is effectively written ... in stone! Given that this, by your oh so seemingly simple statement, is so can you tell us how we would have any choice at all if the past, present and future are known (by anyone)? If all future events are known then our personal futures are necessarily included therefore our futures are known, mapped out and any free will we think we have (somethign I assume you buy into) is an illusion.

Tell us how it works Frodo? Tell us how an all-powerful, all-knowing, omniscient god can know our future yet provide with free will that is not an illusion? Tell us how free will can exist if those are characteristics of your god?

Seems to me you just believe what you want to believe without considering the rational consequences of those beliefs!

Kyu
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Question for the theist. - by Madscientist - May 18, 2009 at 10:54 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by icthus - May 19, 2009 at 12:14 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by Demonaura - May 19, 2009 at 2:12 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by Tiberius - May 19, 2009 at 8:08 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by g-mark - May 19, 2009 at 11:52 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by Violet - May 19, 2009 at 4:40 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by fr0d0 - May 19, 2009 at 5:17 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Kyuuketsuki - May 19, 2009 at 5:42 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Azazylix - May 20, 2009 at 6:22 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by Madscientist - May 19, 2009 at 4:47 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Tiberius - May 19, 2009 at 5:21 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Madscientist - May 19, 2009 at 6:20 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by fr0d0 - May 19, 2009 at 6:30 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Kyuuketsuki - May 20, 2009 at 7:06 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by fr0d0 - May 20, 2009 at 5:22 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Giff - May 21, 2009 at 7:21 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by lilphil1989 - May 21, 2009 at 10:17 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by fr0d0 - May 21, 2009 at 2:24 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by lilphil1989 - May 21, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Giff - May 22, 2009 at 4:47 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by Kyuuketsuki - May 21, 2009 at 3:47 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Edwardo Piet - May 21, 2009 at 8:38 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by fr0d0 - May 21, 2009 at 2:31 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by lilphil1989 - May 21, 2009 at 4:47 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Kyuuketsuki - May 21, 2009 at 5:38 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Edwardo Piet - May 21, 2009 at 7:04 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by fr0d0 - May 21, 2009 at 7:27 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Edwardo Piet - May 21, 2009 at 8:05 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by fr0d0 - May 21, 2009 at 8:13 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Edwardo Piet - May 21, 2009 at 8:35 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Kyuuketsuki - May 22, 2009 at 5:16 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by Darwinian - May 22, 2009 at 6:35 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by Giff - May 21, 2009 at 8:45 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by Tiberius - May 21, 2009 at 3:43 pm
RE: Question for the theist. - by fr0d0 - May 22, 2009 at 3:33 am
RE: Question for the theist. - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 10:24 am

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