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Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?
(August 31, 2018 at 10:00 am)bennyboy Wrote:
(August 31, 2018 at 9:19 am)Khemikal Wrote: A moment ago it was no doubt...now it's just me.  Get your shit together before you try again.
I'm not sure what your objection here is.  I know there's racism, and it's real.  People are treated like shit, to such a degree that their constitutional rights to liberty and the pursuit of happiness are clearly violated.  But we're not talking about that right now.  We're talking about employment chances and the ability to earn a high income.
Indeed, and "we" are noting that the problems of employment vis-a-vis racism in america are an inability to network in segregation, racial biases that lead to uneven selection, and disparate pay if selected.

IQ is irrelevant to all of that.  It's not as if good jobs sit you down for an IQ test.   They have no fucking clue what your IQ is.  It may be true that a smarter person operating within privilege can navigate that privilege to a greater extent - and this is why studies that look for a correlation between the two isolate for that effect by removing demographics known to be disadvantaged for social or institutional reasons.  Fun fact, even within those controlled groups....things like smoking, or having been divorced...or possessing a credit card..entirely cancel out whatever professional benefit there is to having a high IQ as it relates to wealth or earnings.  

I wish IQ had a more pronounced and resilient effect, I really do, your boy here aint exactly a dummy...even though I am miscegenated.  Guess I must've got the good brain -and- the good hair.  

Rolleyes

 
Quote:In disregarding environmental catastrophe, you are then saying that black people's poor test scores are due mainly to heritability.  If so, then an employer, given a black candidate and say an Asian one, presented with a degree but without specific test scores, would likely go with the very high probability that the Asian person would be more intelligent-- or at least, that the Asian person would have scored better on their SAT tests.

How do you deal with people making decisions based on facts?  Do you impose equality of outcome-- quotas, and so on?  What's the point of shouting about racism if there are actual differences among races?
Because racism is a thing regardless of whether or not there are "differences", and those "differences" do not support or justify racism.   

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Quote:The Real Problem™ of racism, is racism.  Not that blacks are dumb malnourished drug addicts with low test scores..hurr durr.
If by racism, you mean that black people are attacked, insulted, and generally shat upon, then yes, absolutely.  It's one thing to correlate various measures of success with race.  But to generalize that to a disregard for someone's humanity-- that's a very different thing.  The problem is that you conflate one with the other.  Every employer has the right to employ the most intelligent candidate available to them, no?

Racism is also the fact that networking is difficult in segregation, black sounding names don't get calls back, and black people get paid less at every education level.  IQ in't a factor in any of that, they're just the wrong shade of lipstick.

You're starting to toe the line of my ability to take you seriously, or as a non racist who's ingested racist talking points.  How do you suggest that an employer determine he has the most intelligent candidate, look at their skin and say.."well, we all know that blacks are dumber than whites so imma go for Phillip."  No, ofc not..right...but that's all that could be drawn from your white supremacist shitpost.
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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this? - by The Grand Nudger - August 31, 2018 at 10:12 am

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