RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
August 31, 2018 at 6:13 pm
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2018 at 6:17 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 31, 2018 at 5:57 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 31, 2018 at 5:45 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Doesn't follow..you say? Then neither would an argument purporting to show that since god is the creator of x, and x exists, so too must god. It is a one-for-one exchange with garden gnomes and gardens. Anyone who thinks it doesn't follow for garden gnomes but does follow for gods, after having had this explained..is delusional.
Glad to know that you'll be on hand to explain to your fellow believers, the next time this invariably pops up, that the argument doesn't follow.
Well that’s a different argument with a different form, which has a different issue. But I have no problem telling a Christian that they have a bad argument here (I’ve do done so before).
No, it's not.....see, you're fuckin delusional.
Quote:Well, my garden grows and the gnomes and unicorns are what makes my garden grow, so they must exist, right?[Garden gnomes] are the cause of the [garden]. The [garden] exists. Therefore [garden gnomes] exist.
[Gods] are the cause of the [universe]. The [universe] exists. Therefore [gods] exist.
[x] is the cause of [y]. [y] exists, therefore [x] exists.
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