When is a Religious Belief Delusional?

[Abaddon_ire]

If you are unable to state where on earth you get your moral absolutes, then those clearly are NOT moral absolutes…I ask again. From whence do you garner your moral absolutes? …The question remains. From whence do you glean your moral absolutes? And the fact remains that you are unable to say. Or possibly afraid to say.

This is not a thread about objective morality. This is a thread about delusional beliefs and people who have them...not objective morality. I am not afraid to have that discussion as evidenced by the many threads in which I have done so.

And you are promoting fervently held beliefs in moral absolutes which are plainly delusional. I am not unaware that you are doing your very best to avoid the consequences of your particular delusion. Nevertheless, it is most definitely on topic. You simply wish it were not.

I have been very clear. I believe there are moral facts even if neither I nor anyone else knows exactly what those absolutes are.

Are there? Name one.

Is that a delusional belief or is it simply wrong? You haven’t said.

It's wrong.

I believe that mathematical objects are real, not merely descriptions, a belief I share with a large number of mathematicians. Is that delusional?

Yup. Show me a "mathematical object" else shut up.

I believe that the Principle of Non-Contradiction is more than simply a useful construct of the human mind, i.e. that it is real and proscriptive. Is that delusional?

Nope. You simply don't understand it.

I believe there are real objects from which sense data is pulled. No one can actually prove that there are real objects corresponding to subjective experience. Is that delusional?

Solipsism. Oh, joy. Well solipsism says your god is equally not real, so you don't want to go there.