When is a Religious Belief Delusional?

[Mister Agenda]

The difference being social pressure and societal acceptance, not the nature of the belief.  The beliefs themselves aren't even advantageous - conformity in any belief can have the belief traded out for any other (and there are plenty).  None of these beliefs, meanwhile, has resisted change over time.  It's not true, for example, that the "best beliefs" - to use a quick term, are those that have been most successful at retaining members, because the beliefs aren't the same as they were even a decade prior.

The institutions, the apparatus of conformity, it's ability to service the religious economy (and it's changing needs)... is..again, the operative mechanism.

In another example of a delusion, however, the faithful think that it's -god- or the beliefs of the moment, themselves... doing all of that.  Yes, they've been indoctrinated, but what have they been indoctrinated into?  A delusional belief system.

The religion that is best at retaining members may be the one that adapts to change most readily. I wasn't talking about any 'best beliefs', but about entire religions. The supernatural beliefs themselves don't have any inherent advantage, but conforming to them may.

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Even if there were moral facts, why would I care about them? Nothing happens if I don't follow them...I'm not going to do something just because it's a "moral fact"; nor will I not do something because it's "factually immoral".

This is the stupidest thing I've  read in a long time. Nothing happens if you murder? Nothing happens if you molest children? Nothing happens if you rob a bank. Pleas, rob, do everyone a favor and go back to making innane videos.

Appeal to moral facts or appeal to consequence...you don't know the difference?