Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?

[The Grand Nudger]

The problem is that you think an honest discussion of issues of race is "normalizing language of white supremacy."

If honest discussion is that, then I'll do that.  You can brand me however you want.

I don't..but you haven't been having one of those, so why would it be relevant?  "Just being honest" - also..in the links...

I've never tried to defend myself against "the notion that you're a racist," and you know that.  It depends what you mean by the word.  If you think I see differences among races, and that's racist, then that is correct: I think Asian people are smart, and black people are athletic.  If you think that the term involves justification of malice, as an obstacle to providing opportunity, then I think the proposals I've made (and you haven't bothered to make) show that not to be the case.

What you mean by the word...also...in the links.....

You can keep deputizing yourself to be the thought police if you want, and I'm not even disputing your positions on racism, especially in the southern states.  But I have to say that the way you have argued in this thread is very unlikely to bring any positive result-- if you really care about race issues, you should want to act in a way that will actually improve the facts.

Thought police complaining...also.......in...the links.

Case in point-- I keep making suggestions about how things might be improved.  You keep shooting my proposals down, without suggesting alternatives, and saying "Anyway. . . that won't work because racism."  I suggested health and welfare programs as a partial solution to the IQ problem, and you said, "Yeah, but anyway networking."

You mean, an honest conversation about race and racism?  Yeah..I've been trying to have one, lol.  

Okay, so let's say that horrible racists like me are oppressing the black population, who are nobly struggling (and not fucking things up at all) for a fair shake.  Fine. . . you have to put them in a position where resistance is not an option.  The constitution of the US accords citizens the right to arm themselves and to stand against tyranny.  Surely, the deliberate control of a large population of impoverished people by a few rich assholes constitutes tyranny.  So pick up a gun, and get yourself heard.

The racist golem.  Guess what, also in the links. Fun fact, as an aside..the us constitution doesn't actually afford anyone that right. That was something we talked about when we wanted to do some shooting, not when we got around to setting laws as the party in power. Though I will say that this is one re-imagining of the tyranny being referenced that I actually do fuck with..and why I'm not a good leftist out to get all the guns.

See, if you used all this big language, and you were actually willing to do something about it, then I'd respect you infinitely more than I do right now.  If you were writing letters to congress, holding a picket sign, beating the shit out of anyone with a confederate flag on their truck-- literally anything.

That's the conversation I'D like to have-- not deciding who's morally superior or inferior and shouting each other down, but looking at any of the problems, and saying "How might this problem be minimized?"

Morality power plays and righteousness points.  Also...meh, fuck it, you already know by now.

Or you would...had you read the links you've been given.