(May 22, 2009 at 3:33 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Since when was faith = irrational. Wrong!
I've just explained it.
And if belief WITH evidence is of course RATIONAL then how on earth would faith merely being by definition being belief WITHOUT evidence be RATIONAL too? To believe in the existence of something WITHOUT evidence - that's fucking irrational! Lol.
Quote:And above... you're perverting the meaning of 'evidence' so that you can conveniently say "faith is belief without evidence". Well sorry, you can't do that.
When we have evidence to believe something exists then that's a correct reason to believe it exists. If you have rational reasons to believe something DOES actually exist therefore then that would IOW be evidence. Where's the perversion there??
If you have rational reasons to actually believe in the EXISTENCE of God that would IOW be evidence! If it actually gives you reasons to believe he DOES INDEED EXIST then that's what evidence IS right? If you have evidence that he exists then that would be reason to believe he exists. Evidence is the name of the game when it comes to rational reasons for believing in the EXISTENCE of something.
And if you have these rational reasoning that would IOW equate to evidence then you can't have faith because faith is without evidence. Faith IS fucking irrational!
Believing in the EXISTENCE of something WITHOUT evidence is NOT a good thing!
To rationally believe that something actually EXISTS you need rational reasons and IF you HAVE those rational reasons - then if they were, indeed, rational reasons - then they would of course have to indicate to SOME EXTENT at least that that thing actually EXISTS - and would IOW be evidence.
When it comes to believing in the existence of something evidence is the name of the game. To rationally believe in the existence of something you need evidence that it EXISTS.
You say I'm perverting the meaning. I do not see how. I will once again assume you just have no counter argument.
EvF
