Peterson's 12 Rules For Life, have you heard of this?

[robvalue]

Sure, I wasn't aiming it at you specifically, it was a general thought. I've only vaguely been following the huge exchanges here.

Nono, and I didn't feel it was aimed at me.

My answer was a very long-winded way of saying the following: where certain issues are seen as highly political, it's going to be very hard just to consider issues on a case-by-case basis, because the people around you will be more than happy to tell you what wing or ideology you really  are.

This idea of a moderate center, where people have varying ideas about various issues, seems intolerable to the loudest proponents at the extremes-- and unfortunately, it's the loudest ones who normally take up the air time (or fill up the forums or Youtube comments etc. etc.).

I agree with that. It's a poor debate tactic to label someone up on their behalf, and to think that alone makes some sort of point. Sticking to the issues is much better.

I also agree about the extremes. Also, empty vessels make the most noise, as they say.