RE: Peterson's 12 Rules for Life v2.0-- actual book discussion
September 23, 2018 at 5:56 am
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2018 at 6:01 am by bennyboy.)
(September 23, 2018 at 4:07 am)robvalue Wrote: All I can say to that is to keep reading. As usual, he's setting up something that sounds reasonable, and will later start abusing it. He descends fairly quickly into literally assigning chaos to women, and order to men. If that isn't something that is considered sexist, if not misogynist, then I would just have to agree to disagree.
He's echoing Jung and Nietzsche, and much of the literature in modern psychology as well. That's why when you see him in interview with female academics, they are much more likely to nod knowingly than to flip out when he says this stuff.
But yeah, I'm still just going through the intro. Just an observation that maybe some of the criticism comes because people don't know the background behind some of the terminology.
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Okay, I though I got that byte, but here's the very next paragraph:
Quote:Chaos, by contrast, is where—or when—something unexpected happens. Chaos emerges, in trivial form, when you tell a joke at a party with people you think you know and a silent and embarrassing chill falls over the gathering. Chaos is what emerges more catastrophically when you suddenly find yourself without employment, or are betrayed by a lover. As the antithesis of symbolically masculine order, it’s presented imaginatively as feminine. It’s the new and unpredictable suddenly emerging in the midst of the commonplace familiar. It’s Creation and Destruction, the source of new things and the destination of the dead (as nature, as opposed to culture, is simultaneously birth and demise).
So he's for sure talking about that symbolic dialectic. He mentions yin/yang the next paragraph.
He does a conflation of symbolic representation and actual women in men's life when he talks about how the scorn of a woman is one of the most chaotic things a man can experience.
Not taking what you've already read, and just looking at it so far, would you say that from a male perspective, a female doesn't normally represent a force for chaos? Cuz I've had girlfriends and marriage, and plenty of chaos