RE: Hello, New atheist having a meltdown
September 25, 2018 at 12:44 pm
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2018 at 12:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Or people of no faith.
Are you feeling..right now, that the grieving process is much easier because of what you were taught about god, or are you feeling that you've been torpedoed when it comes to death? As you put it..your whole schema for life? Seems to me like those myths leave adults wholly unprepared. Now that you've come over to the dark side..so to speak, it might be helpful to remember that the duplicity of god belief isn't actually limited to statements about gods..but also about themselves and other people, and specifically about people who don't believe as they do.
First they scare you with bullshit stories....then they double dip by telling you that you'd just be lost without them. Life and death would be unrecognizable. In my experience, people who initially fall away from faith still believe those subtler but equally faithful claims. Are they really true though? Are you lost without god, or are we all lost without those we deeply love?
Personally...I -love- hymns...especially the morbid ones. I am a deeply southern person. The only place any of my loved ones could go to "be at home" is with me, and the only place I'd go to..if I were a ghost, is back home with my loved ones (I'll haunt this place like a motherfucker if it's an option - forever. They'll never get rid of me. I built it up!). That was their home, this is my home. Still, I appreciate the sort of longing and remorse and sorrow that leads to those sorts of expressions. I know it too. I feel it, so I can convincingly sing it, even if I don't believe the sorrounding mythology.
Whole lot of words..I guess..to say that it's okay that you can't cotton to the loss of your loved ones, or to be lost by them. Who can? Terrible bastards, that's who.
Are you feeling..right now, that the grieving process is much easier because of what you were taught about god, or are you feeling that you've been torpedoed when it comes to death? As you put it..your whole schema for life? Seems to me like those myths leave adults wholly unprepared. Now that you've come over to the dark side..so to speak, it might be helpful to remember that the duplicity of god belief isn't actually limited to statements about gods..but also about themselves and other people, and specifically about people who don't believe as they do.
First they scare you with bullshit stories....then they double dip by telling you that you'd just be lost without them. Life and death would be unrecognizable. In my experience, people who initially fall away from faith still believe those subtler but equally faithful claims. Are they really true though? Are you lost without god, or are we all lost without those we deeply love?
Personally...I -love- hymns...especially the morbid ones. I am a deeply southern person. The only place any of my loved ones could go to "be at home" is with me, and the only place I'd go to..if I were a ghost, is back home with my loved ones (I'll haunt this place like a motherfucker if it's an option - forever. They'll never get rid of me. I built it up!). That was their home, this is my home. Still, I appreciate the sort of longing and remorse and sorrow that leads to those sorts of expressions. I know it too. I feel it, so I can convincingly sing it, even if I don't believe the sorrounding mythology.
Whole lot of words..I guess..to say that it's okay that you can't cotton to the loss of your loved ones, or to be lost by them. Who can? Terrible bastards, that's who.

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