(September 21, 2011 at 11:51 am)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: A beginning is necessary? Yet another positive claim, what if God does not have a cause? It would be the black duck that proves your statement wrong. Also due to the casimer effect there are particles coming into being that appear to have no cause.
Just because we do not know the cause, does not mean there is none. But, If it did appear with no cause, then so did the universe, no god.
if god is finite, then there is a beginning. If god is infinite, then so would thoughts and actions of this god and that is an impossibility as nothing, not even a god can traverse an infinity, even in thought.
This god's thoughts then must be finite and have a beginning which puts us back at what caused the first thought?
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God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy