RE: Peterson's 12 Rules for Life v2.0-- actual book discussion
September 27, 2018 at 12:27 am
(This post was last modified: September 27, 2018 at 12:29 am by bennyboy.)
(September 26, 2018 at 11:22 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(September 26, 2018 at 4:59 pm)PRJA93 Wrote: By "enforced monogamy" or whatever the term was he simply meant a society that encourages people to be monogamous by pressure through societal norms. He was NOT talking about any sort of situation where women are forced to sleep with "incels" or anything of the sort.
Watch the Joe rogan Podcast and hear his own words, from his own mouth.
I figured that pretty early on. Unfortunately, still it's at best just a band-aid over the real problem, and at worst, a pipe dream no more realistic than a return to the Garden of Eden. It's not simply not getting laid that makes an incel an incel; it's the toxic rage at women and society. I can't get laid, but I know better than to treat women as a terribly dangerous other as a direct result of that (honestly, it's our similarities that we really need to watch out for more than our differences). If, say, Elliot Rodger and Alek Minassian actually got their dicks wet, do you think they'd actually get better? Here's a true (so far as we know) story of what happened when someone who fits the incel typology actually got married. And it ain't pretty. To be fair, there are stories of a happier incel marriage on r/incelswithouthate, but they aren't the guys who commit terrorist attacks because they can't get laid.
There will always be dysfunction, hatred and so-on. That's because men in particular have an instinct for power, and when they have a particular lack of power, there's a dissonance there that can lead to extreme frustration. Rape and terrorism have much the same message: "Ignore me now, I dare you! I fucking matter, and I will force you to acknowledge me!"
In the end, it has to be understood that the power of evolution is nearly absolute. Our baser instincts tend to subjugate our agency, often without us even knowing it. Rationalizations about the inferiority of this or that race or nation (or football team or color of bandanna) are really just the tribal instincts of chimpanzees with a better vocabulary. "Just the tip" is spoken by people with the illusion of free will, not understanding that a billion years of evolution are trying to trigger another act of reproduction.
