RE: Evidence God Exists
September 22, 2011 at 4:49 am
(This post was last modified: September 22, 2011 at 5:48 am by ElDinero.)
(September 21, 2011 at 8:10 pm)tackattack Wrote: 1-Alright, an example of me praying for myself that was successful is I was in a financial bind from floating checks and got "behind the ball" with overdraft fees etc. Completely my own doing. I didn't have anything to tithe on Sunday, and felt especially shameful about that. I spoke with my pastor about it and that night I prayed that I fulfill my commitment to the Church and get out of irresponsible financial mess. 3 days later my boss told me to stay late because him and his boss wanted to see me. I had no idea what for. Apparently 6 months earlier, unbeknown to me, my boss had put me in for an award. They presented me with $500. That was exactly enough to catch me up on all the late and overdraft fees with exactly enough left over for 2 weeks worth of tithe next Sunday and a good testimony.
2-An example of me praying for someone else was for my son. He had Mercer in his finer and his fingernail had come off. After taking his to the doctor and getting his medications and something for his pain and dressing his wound we were home for a few days. He only occasionally complained of pain. The Pastor was over for boardgames one night. The pain medication didn't seem to be working tonight and my son said he was in pain. He asked that I come and say prayers with him when I put him to bed. My wife, the pastor, his wife and I all went to pray over him for bed. We prayed that his pain, which he was experiencing prior to prayer, would go away and God would heal his wounds. When the prayer was over he was happy and not in pain (his words) and seemed kind of surprised by it. The next day he didn't want his pain medication and the redness that was there for 2 days prior had returned to normal and normal healing took place to regrow the nail.
This is your 'proof of God'? Are you actually serious? That is beyond pathetic, tack, and I'm sure the other Christians here are smacking their heads thinking 'What are you doing, you numbskull?'. This is your argument:
1. One day I was wearing red socks.
2. On the day I was wearing red socks, my favourite team won the Super Bowl.
Conclusion: The red socks caused my favourite team to win the Super Bowl.
With the first one, you've actually explained fully how the prayer had absolutely nothing to do with it, because your boss put you forward 6 months before you prayed. That meeting would have taken place whether you had been in financial turmoil or not (also, if 500 bucks sorts out your money woes, you weren't that bad off in the first place). To credit this to God is asinine. Where was God when you were getting yourself in the financial shit in the first place?
With the second one, what timescale did the doctor give for when the pain would stop? Also, I suggest you do some reading into the placebo effect. The mind is a powerful thing. While you're in a reading mood, have a quick look at a thing called 'confirmation bias'.
My favourite part is that you actually acknowledge that it might not have been God that answered your prayer. So even if we were to accept the ridiculously flimsy conclusion that these two things happened as a result of you praying...that's proof of God how?
Very embarassing that I have to explain this, and terribly frightening that you're probably passing this horse shit onto your child.
Just realised, it's a good job I used the Super Bowl and not the World Series, what with my 'red socks' analogy. That could have been confusing.