Peterson's 12 Rules for Life v2.0-- actual book discussion

[bennyboy]

It seems some people have solidified their views on Peterson and now seemed to have fixed belief(s) about him. It is what it is, I suppose. I will continue to find value in all kinds of reading materials, including 12 Rules. It doesn't mean I have to like Peterson as a person or agree with everything he says. It's bizarre how some people have painted this guy as some sort of villain. I think he's incredibly disingenuous when it comes to religion and god and there's plenty of political views he's expressed that I don't necessarily agree with. But some hateful, right wing bigot who is just in it for the money? Um, no. I'm definitely more left-leaning than right, but jeez. Some people take things too far, even when they have good intentions.

It's not just that they want to voice their opinions of certain people or ideas, about which they already have strong opinions.  They quite deliberately go into this kind of discussion with the intent of interfering with any kind of dialogue or interest, as a tactic of making sure memes they don't agree with can't be considered-- the shit that this thread has become being a pretty clear case in point. This is not coincidental or accidental. Basically, it's "You have complete freedom to agree with us unconditionally, or to stay quiet, or to be drowned out by irrelevant rants and ad hom attacks." Civil and measured dialogue about specific ideas (for example, limited in scope to the text of a book) is not one of the options they are willing to extend.

I'd say the fantastic success of the Peterson vs. Harris debates shows how eager people are to step away from the internet trolls and see discussions that AREN'T done like that. (I'd say overall Harris is the stronger debater and is more prepared for this kind of arena, but they are still very interesting discussions)