(September 28, 2018 at 8:30 pm)Grandizer Wrote:The things she lists, such as buying a nice house, resulting from privilege are without a doubt not directly from white skin colour.(September 28, 2018 at 6:02 pm)paulpablo Wrote: There's about 7 altogether that Jordan Peterson directly addresses, out of a list of about 50 things.
He lists about 7, but it's not like he's only addressing those few examples. I'm pretty sure he was responding to the whole list in general. The whole point of his lecture was to argue that white privilege isn't a thing, at least not in the way that is conventionally argued.
Quote:Even the writer of the list says the privileges aren't directly from skin color, that it's intertwined with other factors that support it. And she says at the start of the list that it's a personal to just her.
Here's what she actually said, for context:
Quote:I decided to try to work on myself at least by identifying some of the daily effects of white privilege in my life. I have chosen those conditions that I think in my case attach somewhat more to skin-color privilege than to class, religion, ethnic status, or geographic location, though of course all these other factors are intricately intertwined. As far as I can tell, my African American coworkers, friends, and acquaintances with whom I come into daily or frequent contact in this particular time, place and time of work cannot count on most of these conditions.
So no, it's not true that she is saying that the examples aren't directly from skin color, only that privilege is cumulative. That if you're white (or perceived as white), you have white privilege. That if you also happen to be a man, you have both white and male privilege. And if you happen to be neurotypical or Christian or heterosexual, you have even more privilege.
Non white people own nicer houses than her so there has to be other factors involved.
If whiteness directly resulted in owning the best property there would be no non white people owning any nice property.
I think this is why she includes other factors as being intertwined, purely because saying people get a nice house directly as a result of being white is ridiculous.
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