(September 23, 2011 at 1:36 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:(September 23, 2011 at 1:32 am)Shell B Wrote: Sure you can. Shut off whatever telecrack they are obsessed with at the moment, leave them to bawl their eyes out in a playpen and come back when they have learned their lesson.
And get reported to the authorities for child abuse and neglect.
No way. You don't get reported for shutting off a t.v. and putting a kid in a playpen. I didn't say "leave the house and don't feed the child." You just let them cry it out after letting them know why they're being punished.
(September 23, 2011 at 1:32 am)Shell B Wrote: I found that yelling was a great tool if you use it very sparingly. I rarely yell at any of the kids in my life, but you bet they listen when I do. I noticed kids ignore adults who yell all the time. There is no urgency to it if it is the norm.
Quote:Copying them is a great weapon...but you are STILL not reasoning with them.
I'm confused by "copying them." I didn't say I copied them. Sorry, I must just be missing your meaning. As for reasoning with them, it is reasoning with them. I talk it out every time one of them fucks up. I start with a stern talking to, go to taking away belongings, next to corner or grounding, then I yell. They knock it off by the time I yell, typically long before. I have been known to give beloved toys to charity, if that doesn't work, though. I never punish without explaining details of why they are being punished. In fact, I think they hate that about me because I try to drill things into them.
Still, I am not saying a quick spanking that leaves no bruises is not often warranted. I am saying that excessive spanking with a paddle is beyond ridiculous. Also, that I can't do it. I have never spanked a child. Who knows? The day might come, but I cannot bring myself to do it.