Peterson's 12 Rules for Life v2.0-- actual book discussion

[GrandizerII]

But I'm saying that discrimination against non-white people by landlords and agents happens not because of "majority privilege" but because of racism.


Sure, that can happen. I'm not saying it can't ever. But in your case, that didn't happen like that, did it? And it's not like you've given me much context to go by here.


Um, in a way, it is. Black people aren't privileged so are despised wherever they go. Not generally the case for white people.

Black people aren't despised wherever they go. A lack of privilege has never been the cause of hatred.

Yeh racism doesn't exist, that's true.

You meant racism does exist, right?

I see you're good at pointless nitpicking, by the way. Good for you.

But my point overall still stands.

Black people are far more despised overall than white people. And part of it is fostered by lack of white privilege.

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That's nice.  Do you consider yourself morally compelled to do so, or do you just do it because you're such a swell guy?

Neither. I do it to ease some anxiety of mine. It just makes me feel better when I see I have done something, albeit very little, for a select few who are less fortunate than me.

Well wait a minute.  If we're so deeply concerned about inequality, then there's an easy solution-- pure communism.  Either that, or we simply have rules intended generally to promote equality-- applications to school based only on test scores, for example-- and let those who perform better take their positions at the top.

There's no easy solution here, benny. We first need to acknowledge and address the elephant in the room before we can dream of enacting a proper solution. But there's too many privileged people in this world who aren't ready for that.

Have you read the book?

Why? Is there something Peterson said in his book he didn't say in his lecture on his trivialization of white privilege?

Well, you have my attention.  Have a sufficient number of white property owners requested that, even in the face of Indian or Asian black people who have a lot of money, dress nicely, and are well-educated?  Are you saying that these people would rather have some white bogan than say Barack Obama?

That's the thing. In the mind of the racist, there is no such thing as a wealthy, nicely-dressed, and well-educated who isn't white. They may spot a contradiction to that when they do encounter someone who does meet these characteristics, but such people don't pop up in their considerations.

When someone I actually know IRL actually told his agent he didn't want any Indians living in his house, the last thing on his mind was wealth and education. He just didn't want any Indians in his house, period.

This is just one of many reasons I don't get along with him, by the way.

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If white people are identified as low-class (trailer park, bogan, whatever), then they will absolutely be barred.

You sure about that?

I'll tell you a story.  I managed to scrape up enough money to buy a little townhouse on Vancouver Island, which I rented out.  A single mom applies. . . she's on welfare, looks like a slob, but she gives a sob story about how nobody will give her a chance and she promises she'll take great care of the place.

Three months later, she's late on the fucking rent, her teenage daughter trashes the place, and she just moves out.  Never got even 10% of the damage she caused back.

That's unfortunate. And I can see how this might've been a traumatic experience for you.

Moral-- fuck poor people.  They are poor for a reason, and keep them the fuck off my property.  I want classy people only-- literate, educated, and responsible.  A black guy shows up in expensive glasses wearing a sweater vest, I'll suck his dick if he'll sign a lease.  Another fucking yokel shows up looking for compassion, and I'll drop-kick him off my porch and sick my dog on him, I don't care if he's an Aryan poster child.

Are you saying all this to try to convince me you're not really racist, but perhaps some other type of bigot?

Yeah, there is a moral to be learned here, but not that prejudice against poor people is a good thing.

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Welcome to the forum, Belaqua. And great post.

Yeah, that's Peterson pretty much. Likes to say stuff without much basis to them, and tends to disregard what the experts say in various fields.

But no worries, Benny will be here soon to point out just how badly Peterson is being misrepresented ... once again.