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Peterson's 12 Rules for Life v2.0-- actual book discussion
RE: Peterson's 12 Rules for Life v2.0-- actual book discussion
(October 6, 2018 at 10:43 am)Grandizer Wrote:
(October 5, 2018 at 12:31 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Last time I checked, "black" and "white" were colors.

To be more accurate, perceived colors. There are African Americans who have what you could call white skin, but are nevertheless perceived as black.

Quote:I believe that an egalitarian society should provide equal protections for all citizens without regard to the color of their skin.  But while you and I both agree that racism is one of the forms of prejudice from which a citizen should be protected, you have expressly defined racism in such a way that some individuals will fall under protection from race-based prejudice, and some will not-- and this difference in protection you've predicated not on individual merit or abilities, but on skin color.

I do not endorse any political position which expresses intent to treat individual citizens differently based on their racial identity.

White people don't need protection from race-based prejudice, even if there are groups that hate white people.



A quick relevant article for you to read:
Racism against white people doesn't exist in America, and here's why it never will

(October 5, 2018 at 1:46 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Could you be racist against a white Jewish person?  Or a white Syrian Muslim?  Or a white gypsy family?

This is somewhat tricky because it's not strictly about skin color per se, but rather about perceptions of color. As a Lebanese light-skinned guy from a Christian background and with a Christian and familiar name, it's rather confusing for me whether I do have white privilege or not. Most of the time, living in Australia, it feels like I don't have it as bad as (say) Indians and Asians (Chinese, Filipinos, Vietnamese, etc.) and definitely not as bad as Aboriginal people here in Australia. But I'm not really sure if people see me as white. I'm more identified as Middle Eastern, or Arab.

Well I dated a Syrian women and if it wasn't for her accent or her telling me I would have never known she was from Syria and she looked very much as white as I am, and I am white. Looking back at pictures she was around as pale as me if not more.

So it would be impossible for her or her family members back in Syria to be discriminated against by people who bought into a system who oppresses them? I am making an assumption that there's some family resemblance between her and her family.

In the case of Gypsy families in the UK also they're definitely perceived as white.  I mean whiter than white, their kids are often ginger and pale with freckles.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...t-mps-poll

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...-prejudice


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RE: Peterson's 12 Rules for Life v2.0-- actual book discussion - by paulpablo - October 6, 2018 at 11:59 am

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